Harsh with Test?

[bigcountry76]

I have read a lot about Anadrol (oxymetholone) being "harsh" if used with Test. I am now wondering what does this mean "harsh"? I know what harsh i am can look it up. but i want to know the harsh when used with Test.

thank you for all your inputs on this subject.

[Ironhorse]

Test is, (or at least should be) the base of all cycles. Usually when you hear the word harsh when pertaining to AAS, its the liver and/or kidneys. Usually. Ive never tried Anadrol personally, but everything is fairly safe if its done in moderation and not fooled around with. Do more research and keep asking questions, youll get there. To answer your question, I would have to say it would be fine, but it depends on dosages as well.

[bigcountry76]

thanks ironhorse. i was reading and there is bunch of things I don't understand about all the receptors and whatever else you can think of from the steroid profiles on this site. i need someone to break them down for me.

[role model]

Ironhorse is correct Anadrol is harsh on the liver so don't go over 100mg/day and no longer than 6 weeks max.
Anadrol is harsh by itself, so adding test will not make it more harsh.
I used anadrol once, and used it on my last 6 weeks of my cycle with awesome results. I packed on an extra 20 lbs my last 6 weeks.

[Reinheart]

Originally Posted by role model

Ironhorse is correct Anadrol is harsh on the liver so don't go over 100mg/day and no longer than 6 weeks max.
Anadrol is harsh by itself, so adding test will not make it more harsh.
I used anadrol once, and used it on my last 6 weeks of my cycle with awesome results. I packed on an extra 20 lbs my last 6 weeks.

Sounds wonderful! How much were you taking?

[MaxRep]

Originally Posted by Reinheart

Sounds wonderful! How much were you taking?

It's not wonderful. It's hard on the heart to put on that much weight that fast, considering he must have already put on weight earlier in the cycle. For RM to pack on that much weight that fast at the end of a cycle, a lot of that was water retention. Walking up 2 flights of stairs probably had him breathing rather hard. It looks like he may have been taking 100mg/day for 6 weeks. I don't see a reason for that kind of dose by anyone who isn't competing in some type of competition. That's a dose that will be very hard on one's liver.

Something else to consider is anything over 50mg per day of anadrol will give many people a good case of bitch tits. I've seen guys get gyno after just 3-4 weeks of anadrol.

Someone like RM doing it after many years of experience and a lot of knowledge as to how to eat and train properly is one thing. For most others, it's not a good idea.

Anadrol itself is hard on the liver. Most orals are. Taking injectables puts minimal stress on the liver so taking anadrol with Test or any other injectable wouldn't really increase the "harshness" of anadrol.

Best regards,
MaxRep

[Président]

Originally Posted by MaxRep

It's not wonderful. It's hard on the heart to put on that much weight that fast, considering he must have already put on weight earlier in the cycle. For RM to pack on that much weight that fast at the end of a cycle, a lot of that was water retention. Walking up 2 flights of stairs probably had him breathing rather hard. It looks like he may have been taking 100mg/day for 6 weeks. I don't see a reason for that kind of dose by anyone who isn't competing in some type of competition. That's a dose that will be very hard on one's liver.

Something else to consider is anything over 50mg per day of anadrol will give many people a good case of bitch tits. I've seen guys get gyno after just 3-4 weeks of anadrol.

Someone like RM doing it after many years of experience and a lot of knowledge as to how to eat and train properly is one thing. For most others, it's not a good idea.

Anadrol itself is hard on the liver. Most orals are. Taking injectables puts minimal stress on the liver so taking anadrol with Test or any other injectable wouldn't really increase the "harshness" of anadrol.

Best regards,
MaxRep

Just for an example, i decide to use dbol at 50 mg with the one gram of test i take every week for the last 4 weeks of my cycle. I start the dbol last Saturday and felt dizzy and uncomfortable sunday. I decide to take my blood pressure and you know what:177/95.At this level of BP , at the hospital(I work as a nurse) , we call the doctor immediately and treat the patient. i can tell you that at this high level of BP on a long term period of time you can seriously harm your kidneys and put a very high stress on your heart. I stopped the dbol and take an ace inhibitor to lower my BP. Imagine with 100 mg of anadrol

[bigcountry76]

Max Rep thank you for explaining everything out to me. Now i understand what the harsh is all about. The rapid weight gain, BP raises, extra hard on the liver. Now the puzzle has come together.


thanks for all the great knowledge.

[MaxRep]

Originally Posted by bigcountry76

Max Rep thank you for explaining everything out to me. Now i understand what the harsh is all about. The rapid weight gain, BP raises, extra hard on the liver. Now the puzzle has come together.
thanks for all the great knowledge.

Now you're seeing the picture!

Remember also, don't use more than you really have to. Decades ago, people seemed to develop great physiques off 400-500mg/week of Test and 20-30mg/day of an oral or if not running an oral, then great results off 400mg Test and 200mg deca/week.

My point is, lower dosages work great if you're eating and training right.

Good luck!
MaxRep