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Old 08-25-2007, 12:39 AM
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Stopped the roids. Best cycle ever. Have not yet begun formal PCT with tamoxifen. Using HCG to get the boys fat & ready for self-production. Question: Any reason why I should wait to use Dermacrine Sustain with the tamoxifen (nolvadex), or would it be fine to use it while doing 1000 iu of HCG ED for 10 days?

(The question is not about my HCG use, so no tsk-tsk over the amount, okay?)

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Not an expert on Dermacine but personally, I would wait until PCT is started. Especially at the dose you are running the HCG. It can keep you shut down and you could waste the Dermacine.

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Not an expert on Dermacine but personally, I would wait until PCT is started. Especially at the dose you are running the HCG. It can keep you shut down and you could waste the Dermacine.
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Thanks Bruvvah. That makes sense.

Just got back from a vigorous time with my ladyfriend on the Treasure Coast of Florida. Man, people were so open at the poolside bars about praising my physique, girls ooing & awing for real, guys stepping out of my way. Guess my white hair makes me seem approachable that way.

And that "vigor" has never been greater than a week on Test Prop, Tren Ace, Proviron, + beginning the HCG run.

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Hey Solo.. Nice to hear from you again. It's been awhile. Keep us updated on how the Sustain works as your PCT. Good luck!

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Hey Solo.. Nice to hear from you again. It's been awhile. Keep us updated on how the Sustain works as your PCT. Good luck!
Will do, iamgq. Might be hard to distinguish if the tamoxifen and tribulus do their thing properly.

But this has been a pretty intense cycle, first time using Tren, plus I'm passed the half century mark, so I anticipate it will take some time to get back to normal liver values and test levels. That's why I added the Derm Sustain, recommended by reliable names on this forum, to help the old body recover its natural state.

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Half a century mark?................You'll never get back ti normal................J/K

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Half a century mark?................You'll never get back ti normal................J/K

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So you say, youngster. Have every time so far: After six weeks post PCT, my readings have been in the normal range for a man of my venerable lust-driven life.

Take the laughing clown away and let him learn a few things.

There are others out there of my years and more (not to mention any names, eh jboldman?) who still work out, cycle in and cycle out, and return to normal status in between. In fact, I'd argue that over the 40s, AAS cycles are more beneficial than at any other time in one's life — because they are needed to retain full quality of life. HGH is a long-term wonder drug too. Long, detailed PCTs are necessary too, of course.

Time to question your ageism biases, HDH. If we mature men are not going to live to our very best now, than when? Later is not an acceptable option.

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Got news for ya byo. I plan on using it for many years to come

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Stopped the roids. Best cycle ever. Have not yet begun formal PCT with tamoxifen. Using HCG to get the boys fat & ready for self-production. Question: Any reason why I should wait to use Dermacrine Sustain with the tamoxifen (nolvadex), or would it be fine to use it while doing 1000 iu of HCG ED for 10 days?

(The question is not about my HCG use, so no tsk-tsk over the amount, okay?)

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Yes, you would be best using the Sustain after the hCG, with the nolva. Im not sure what dose you plan on using, but I wouldn’t go over 10mg/day on the nolva. That seems to be the max-test boosting dose.

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Yes, you would be best using the Sustain after the hCG, with the nolva. Im not sure what dose you plan on using, but I wouldn’t go over 10mg/day on the nolva. That seems to be the max-test boosting dose.
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Thanks Primordial. I'll be using "Liquinolva" which is at 25mg/ml, so I'll first go a week on one ml per day then another 3 weeks on .5 ml/day. Make sense? (Maybe I'll go the first week on .5 ml twice per day to spread out the effects.)

Question 1: How much Sustain each day on the body?

Question 2: When would it be safe to use your basic Dermacrine once my Test levels & liver values return to normal? Best to await my next cycle?

Thanks for the valuable information!

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