HCG question

[bigtips]

Originally Posted by BBC3

Please keep in mind when I stated bullshit, what I am saying is that there is no benefit to adding HCG to a diet, except for whatever anabolic increase in activity it gives. The DIET is why people are loosing weght. I have great experience with the drug and I can tell you regardless if I am heavy on cardio with a low cal diet to lose weight, or bulking, I have never experienced any unusual or unexpected change in fat or weight loss. Regarding to effects of HCG, yes I am aware that even HCG alone will impact the HTPA, I was merely pointing out the value of sustaining the testicles while on cycle, rather than waiting till the end and trying to megadose.

So I assume you were taking the HCG while on cycle right? That may be the reason why you haven't seen any dramatic results as far as weight loss. The HCG diet requires a calorie restriction to only 500 calories. I understand your logic but I have personally seen people lose some crazy weight while on HCG in a short amount of time.

[bigtips]

Originally Posted by hatman

I am also going to have some extra HCG on hand, and am curious about this. I would love to drop as much BF as possible before starting my test/tren/dbol cycle

Yeah, thats what I'm screaming! I just don't want the HCG using up those valuable receptors. That would piss the test off haha. I'm with BBC I don't even think it uses them I just want to be real sure, otherwise it won't be worth it. I could always cut later I guess.

[newbie23]

Originally Posted by bigtips

Hey guys, this is my first post. I just registered, I usually post on bb.com but lately it seems everything is taboo over there and guys don't want to give advice without being pricks so here I am. Anyway so I'm 27 years old, 6'0 190 17% body fat and I got some gear and the bulk cycle is going to look like this:

1-14 Test E 750mg e/w
1-14 Deca Durabolin 400mg e/w
1-4 Dianabol 40mg e/d
17-18 100mg clomid e/d
17-20 40mg Nolvadex e/d (i may taper down to 20mg)

I also have 3 vials of HCG 5000IU per vial that I will be running every few days or so around 500IU.

My question is this: would it be okay to go on the HCG low calorie diet a month before the cycle to loose some unwanted mid section fat or would the HCG plug my androgen receptors and thus decrease the efficiency of the gear?

Thanks guys I'm really looking forward to it!

everything looks good but i would tweek a few things.

i would run the test at least a week prob 2 past the deca-the way you have it your starting PCT a week early-you should wait 3 weeks after last deca pin to start PCT. deca can cause prolactin to go sky high-nolva can aggravate prolactin issues-i would get rid of the nolva and just use clomid. Nolva can be fine for PCT after deca or tren-although never use concurrently-also i have been seeing a lot of guys have sides during PCT instead of on cycle-so why even chance the nolva?

so here it is

1-4 dbol 40mg ED
1-16 test 750mg a week
1-14 deca 400mg a week
1-18.5 HCG 500 iu a week-stop HCG 4 days before PCT-you can take 2 week break from HCG in middle
19-22 clomid 50mg ED for 4 weeks
also you need something to give you pumps during PCT-like a test booster or something.

[bigtips]

Originally Posted by newbie23

everything looks good but i would tweek a few things.

i would run the test at least a week prob 2 past the deca-the way you have it your starting PCT a week early-you should wait 3 weeks after last deca pin to start PCT. deca can cause prolactin to go sky high-nolva can aggravate prolactin issues-i would get rid of the nolva and just use clomid. Nolva can be fine for PCT after deca or tren-although never use concurrently-also i have been seeing a lot of guys have sides during PCT instead of on cycle-so why even chance the nolva?

so here it is

1-4 dbol 40mg ED
1-16 test 750mg a week
1-14 deca 400mg a week
1-18.5 HCG 500 iu a week-stop HCG 4 days before PCT-you can take 2 week break from HCG in middle
19-22 clomid 50mg ED for 4 weeks
also you need something to give you pumps during PCT-like a test booster or something.

Thanks man. I was thinking of kicking the nolva altogether. Some bros say its okay to use with deca because it keeps estrogen at bay and they argue that estrogen is required for progesterone to be present. There are so many conflicting statements. Last time I ran nolva pct after some deca and I was okay, but I'm starting to question if I should do it again, so I thank you for your input. And I will go ahead and run the test for a week longer. I would run it for 16 but I don't have enough. By the way, as I had it, I was starting my pct 3 weeks after last injection. Any input on the using some HCG in an HCG diet before the cycle to cut down on body fat? Thanks again man!

[bigtips]

Ok I think I see what your saying. Its okay to run nolva in pct after deca, just not during?

[bigbench]

The HCG diet is bullshit. Its a rediculously low caloric diet while adding HCG in. Hell, if you took in 500cals a day and take a vitamin C tab. you could say its the Vit C diet, etc.. The DIET is what is causing the weight loss. At that low of a dose, the body cant function properly and will shut down its own hormonal production as its basically dying. At that low of a caloric intake you will see that you have no libido, proper brain function diminishes, hair will begin falling out, nails become brittle, kidney and liver function suffer, etc... The HCG is to try and prevent as much of this as possible by keeping hormone production active. Why would anyone do this to themselves? Cause they dont know any better. Hell, 500cals isnt much more than the prisoners got in concentration camps. Also, they dont talk about the weight gain post diet. That is going to be HELL on those who are on it.
As for nolva, yes take it post cycle, but not ON cycle if running deca. You need adex and maybe dost or prami for progest problems

[BBC3]

Yes I was saying that I am sure the diet works on 500 calories.!!!! I mean, anyone here, especially males, that are considering this have obviously NEVER counted calories. 500 calories is not even a snack. I have no doubt that you will shed as many pounds as you like on this diet. If you could pull it off for even a month you might even be in the asylum...... You think there is such a thing as roid rage??? Try this diet and you will find out what it is really like to be pissed off.

[newbie23]

Originally Posted by bigbench

As for nolva, yes take it post cycle, but not ON cycle if running deca. You need adex and maybe dost or prami for progest problems

^^^ x2

although with tren and decca i personally will just use clomid-there is not much diff between it and nolva. people worry about sides from clomid but they are mostly dose related. if you run HCG through cycle as i layed it out-you wont need much clomid or nolva to get you back to 100%.

[tydyeinc]

alright,,,,that's not too cool because I just bought some, although it seems to be working....

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[solo47]

Geez, just workout, eat clean, do your roids as planned and add adex or aromasin, plus run a little HCG, and I guarantee you will drop fat.

Solo