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[newme]

I have recently started working out again, 2 long years since...my question is I went to Mexico and purchased T4 (eutirox) Clen and primoblan depot. i have taken the clen before and had great results. In the past 3 months I have gained approx 25lbs and i'm only a 5'6 female...i'm going crazy. This is my fault due to HORRIBLE DIET AND BEING LAZY...also have a 3 yr old and just not taking time for myself. My goal is to lose the fat and get very lean. I am not looking to bulk at all. I like the long lean look. My diet has been very good in the last 2 weeks...only been taking clen,t4, and primo since Monday. Is the Primo going to have any verilizing (sp?) effects...if so I willl stop. Also, what type of cycle do you suggest for the rest....and any other help will be GREATLY APPRECIATED! Last but not least I need to do this asap because I am taking the big step with the man of my dreams on march 11th....HELP PLEASE

[BigLibby]

Originally Posted by newme

I have recently started working out again, 2 long years since...my question is I went to Mexico and purchased T4 (eutirox) Clen and primoblan depot. i have taken the clen before and had great results. In the past 3 months I have gained approx 25lbs and i'm only a 5'6 female...i'm going crazy. This is my fault due to HORRIBLE DIET AND BEING LAZY...also have a 3 yr old and just not taking time for myself. My goal is to lose the fat and get very lean. I am not looking to bulk at all. I like the long lean look. My diet has been very good in the last 2 weeks...only been taking clen,t4, and primo since Monday. Is the Primo going to have any verilizing (sp?) effects...if so I willl stop. Also, what type of cycle do you suggest for the rest....and any other help will be GREATLY APPRECIATED! Last but not least I need to do this asap because I am taking the big step with the man of my dreams on march 11th....HELP PLEASE

I would love to help you; my wife was in the exact same boat. The problem is she didn't take any aas, just T-3 and clen. I would suggest visiting the women’s forum on this site.

Also, pm VDC as he knows where else you can look for your answers. Good Luck

ps, my wife dropped pounds 3 months only doing cardio 4 x week. If you would like me to give you the specifics shoot me an e-mail.

[kemo]

Originally Posted by newme

I have recently started working out again, 2 long years since...my question is I went to Mexico and purchased T4 (eutirox) Clen and primoblan depot. i have taken the clen before and had great results. In the past 3 months I have gained approx 25lbs and i'm only a 5'6 female...i'm going crazy. This is my fault due to HORRIBLE DIET AND BEING LAZY...also have a 3 yr old and just not taking time for myself. My goal is to lose the fat and get very lean. I am not looking to bulk at all. I like the long lean look. My diet has been very good in the last 2 weeks...only been taking clen,t4, and primo since Monday. Is the Primo going to have any verilizing (sp?) effects...if so I willl stop. Also, what type of cycle do you suggest for the rest....and any other help will be GREATLY APPRECIATED! Last but not least I need to do this asap because I am taking the big step with the man of my dreams on march 11th....HELP PLEASE

First off, congrats on the big day!! As for the primo, you should be o.k. as long as you don't go crazy and start doing 1000mg or so a week. I assume you are keeping it around 200mg. As for the others, I would follow a program that pyramids both up and down. I would probably start with half a clen per day for 2 days, up to 1 clen, up to a max of 4 per day. You can ramp up as you like, paying close attention to your side effects. If you get a screaming headache or heart palps, slow down the dose a bit. Make sure you spread the clen out through the day and don't take any within a couple hours of bedtime. The most important part of clen is the ramp down. You need to come down about 1 tab per day until you are at 2 tabs, then 1/2 tab per day until 1/2 tab...then continue for 2 days. Don't worry if this just confused you, I have a sample below. Take the clen for about 16 days. Mix your T-4 in with it at about 3 tabs per day. You can ramp up fairly quick on the T-4 as well, but come down 1 tab a day until you are at 1, then continue for 3 days.

Sample:

Day 1-11 ramp up as you can handle sides until you are at 4 clen and 3 T
Day 11 -- take 3 clen and 3 T
Day 12 -- take 2 clen and 3 T
Day 13 -- take 1.5 clen and 2 T
Day 14 -- take 1 clen and 1 T
Day 15 -- take .5 clen and 1 T
Day 16 -- take .5 clen and 1 T

You then need to wait 10 days before you start again. Considering you have about 30 days until the big day, that gives you about 1.25 cycles......which should equate to about 15 pounds if you follow a strict diet, eat 6 meals a day, and drink 1 gallon of water per day.

Hope this helps.....

Kemo

[Grizzly]

Even with what Kemo suggests, I wouldn't expect any miracles. 4 weeks isn't really taht much time.

[chris gordon]

Originally Posted by Grizzly

Even with what Kemo suggests, I wouldn't expect any miracles. 4 weeks isn't really taht much time.

best thing you could do would be no carbs for a month....forget the t4...all iknow about it says it aint good...clen is ok,use for 2 weeks the ECA for 2 weeks

[newme]

Today I went to the Dr and found out I have hypothyroidism which is why I have gained so much weight SO FAST!! He gave me the Levoxyl and I told him I was taking clen (didn't tell about the other t4) and he didn't agree but didn't say much because he knows I am going crazy with this extra weight!! but I don't understand why the t3 will enhance my thyroid and the t4 will not work as well?? Can I take both? i have decided to stop the primo. As far as a w/o schedule is aerobics ok for my cardio...I HATE ANYTHING STATIONARY!! I have a personal trainer who used to train for the SA Spurs b-ball team so I think he knows what he is doing and he will be training me two days a week VERY HARD! and I will train with weights two additional days and do cardio 4 days a week. This is the plan so far please tell me if you know of any other things I could be doing to enhance my QUICK FIX. I now understand with my condition I will have to eat properly and exercise for the rest of my life...which is great...but i need results FAST!!!! AGAIN, PLEASE HELP since there is new info.

Originally Posted by kemo

First off, congrats on the big day!! As for the primo, you should be o.k. as long as you don't go crazy and start doing 1000mg or so a week. I assume you are keeping it around 200mg. As for the others, I would follow a program that pyramids both up and down. I would probably start with half a clen per day for 2 days, up to 1 clen, up to a max of 4 per day. You can ramp up as you like, paying close attention to your side effects. If you get a screaming headache or heart palps, slow down the dose a bit. Make sure you spread the clen out through the day and don't take any within a couple hours of bedtime. The most important part of clen is the ramp down. You need to come down about 1 tab per day until you are at 2 tabs, then 1/2 tab per day until 1/2 tab...then continue for 2 days. Don't worry if this just confused you, I have a sample below. Take the clen for about 16 days. Mix your T-4 in with it at about 3 tabs per day. You can ramp up fairly quick on the T-4 as well, but come down 1 tab a day until you are at 1, then continue for 3 days.

Sample:

Day 1-11 ramp up as you can handle sides until you are at 4 clen and 3 T
Day 11 -- take 3 clen and 3 T
Day 12 -- take 2 clen and 3 T
Day 13 -- take 1.5 clen and 2 T
Day 14 -- take 1 clen and 1 T
Day 15 -- take .5 clen and 1 T
Day 16 -- take .5 clen and 1 T

You then need to wait 10 days before you start again. Considering you have about 30 days until the big day, that gives you about 1.25 cycles......which should equate to about 15 pounds if you follow a strict diet, eat 6 meals a day, and drink 1 gallon of water per day.

Hope this helps.....

Kemo

[chris gordon]

for the fastest results...do no carbs this is the fasyest you can lose fat....i cant advise on the t4...as t3 is by far the better of the 2, t4 has to be converted to t3 in order to be active

[Grizzly]

Levoxyl is T4 and, no, should not use both at the same time. Your thyroid is already fucked, I wouldn't fuck with it anymore.