Help finding a cycle - MESO-Rx

Gstack80 · #1 (**permalink**) 08-21-2009, 01:33 AM

Ok guys Im getting ready to amp up on some gear but I need help choosing what type of cycle to start with. Can I hear some ideas on a good cycle to start with?

kingbigdaddy1220 · #2 (**permalink**) 08-21-2009, 02:36 AM

Test only 250-500mg a week is always a good first cycle.

**Bigkarch** · #3 (**permalink**) 08-21-2009, 03:37 AM

well, lets hear from you...what do you think you want to do...give us a bit more info and history....lets hear your cycle you put together and we can go further

wraithgs · #4 (**permalink**) 08-21-2009, 03:49 AM

yea 250-500mg is a good go.... the bigger you already are naturally the more towards the 500 side you need to lean towards for the best results..... im on my first cycle now of only test and i made it to 246 lbs at 11-12ish % bf all natural before my cycle....ive increased my cals and am on almost on week 9 and at week 4 i increased my dose from 400-650ish mg a week (give or take i may have got sum underdosed stuff) at week 4 i was 253 and now i am 262 at about the same bodyfat maybe a half percent or percent up but not much...so i believe that if you are already advanced and are pretty swole up naturally you have to take a lil more than other people who weigh a lot less than you... I got a buddy who competes...now he is 220 at 9% bf but he is like 5'2 were i am 6 foot, and he claims that he does not see any promonint growth in a test only cycle unless he takes at least 800mg a week but he dont go over 1000mg....now DO NOT do that on your first cycle but you gotta see how your body responds to the TEST.....you can also throw in a lil dbol 20mg a day to kick start for the first 4 weeks..... by the way whats your stats???? bodyfat, weight etc?

bigrobbie · #5 (**permalink**) 08-21-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gstack80

Ok guys Im getting ready to amp up on some gear but I need help choosing what type of cycle to start with. Can I hear some ideas on a good cycle to start with?

I agree with BigK, what have you considered, what are your goals? How much research have

you done?

Exile · #6 (**permalink**) 08-21-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrobbie

I agree with BigK, what have you considered, what are your goals? How much research have

you done?

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Gstack80 · #7 (**permalink**) 08-22-2009, 12:36 AM

Will my goals are to gain lean muscle mass. I started out natural at 30% BF at a weight of 252 Im down to 18% I weigh about 210 Im 5'7 my stack Im looking @ is 400 - 500mg of Sus 250, with some Deca around any where from 400 - 600mgs per week and not sure If i sould go with Tren or D-bol I dont like the lower back pains I get when Im on D-bol but it has good results. And to top it off with some Clomid or nova!

wraithgs · #8 (**permalink**) 08-22-2009, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Gstack80

Will my goals are to gain lean muscle mass. I started out natural at 30% BF at a weight of 252 Im down to 18% I weigh about 210 Im 5'7 my stack Im looking @ is 400 - 500mg of Sus 250, with some Deca around any where from 400 - 600mgs per week and not sure If i sould go with Tren or D-bol I dont like the lower back pains I get when Im on D-bol but it has good results. And to top it off with some Clomid or nova!

I thought this was your first cycle and also always keep you test dose higher than your deca....

dbol and tren are 2 totally different compunds......and are not comparable aas... Do a little more research on this before you go through with it....this stuff isnt bullshit from gnc and it can fuck you up if you dont do it correctly, but can also be safe if you know what you are doing...IF this is your first cycle i would go with test (enanthate,sus,or cypionate) and dbol if you are wanting to bulk, or test propionate and winstrol if your wanting to cut... <thats my opinion bro.... Anabolic Steroids - Steroid .com has a lot of information on all aas you can check them out.

Gstack80 · #9 (**permalink**) 08-22-2009, 04:36 AM

Thanks for the info

**Bigkarch** · #10 (**permalink**) 08-22-2009, 08:58 AM

if your wanting lean mass, I wouldnt necessarily use the deca...actually, with a good training regimen and diet and being new to this, a test only cycle at 400 mg ew is sufficient....actually, the key to gaining lean mass is diet and training...

that being said, I also like using tren with test e and a jump starter with some var or dbol for first 4 weeks, but generally I like to see somone do that with a few cycles under them first..

also dont forget the anti e's and pct...you have a lot of research to do bro....check out ALL our articles that we offer, even if it seems not to apply to you...