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I have been on now for 4 weeks, test @ 500, deca@ 250, and tren@ about 150per week. this is nothing compared to past cycles. However In the past 4 days, my cehst appears swolen and tender.

I am fearing GYNECOMASTIA, and have been as I never experienced it, I never worried! Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
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Default Re: Help, Pecs are tender, 4 weeks in...

try running nolva at 40 mgs ed...when tenderness goes away drop to 20 mgs then 10 mgs eod...

for the tren n deca if the gyno is from that....run b-6 200-400 mcgs ed...if that does not work ....then bromo
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Default Re: Help, Pecs are tender, 4 weeks in...

When you say your chest is swollen,do you mean around{under} the nipples?
If so you need to get some nolvadex immediately.
I have some on standby for incase this happened to me,I'm like you have never experianced that before.
You dont have time to wait for a mail order so you need to workout where you can get it form fast.
If I was in that position I'd get on the phone and ring around the medical clinics to see what doctor would be best to see in your area about problems related to this,maybe a male sex clinic or the likes I'm not sure.
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Should I stop the Cycle or slow down or what? If my natural test levels are too low, willl this hurt as estrogen will be higher?

Also I should be able to get Nolvadex by Wed., is that too late? Hate to wine, but I HAVE NO clue and this shit is a bit scarry...

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Answer the question jasthase asked you.

Is the soreness in your nipples or no?
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Yes- swelling, and tender better describes it.

Didnt mean to over look the question, i guess an just a bit scattered here as I have not a clue.
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If you can get novladex buy wednesday you dont have to worry about your natural test/estrogen ratio,that effect takes untill the gear wears off{which depends on the ester},just dont take another shot or test or deca,you dont wont to aggravate it.
It has to be the deca and or test so you may need to cut down on the dose.
More than likely the test is the culprit.
I have'nt had personal experiance with gynecomastia myself but I think I've heard it said that the minor swelling around the nipples can be eradicated with nolvadex,if it has not grown into breast tissue yet.
Sit tight bro,I'd still get on the blower myself and ring around.You should be able to get some doc to write you a script.
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You shouldn't have started this cycle without having everything you need. I'm not gyno sensitive, but I'd never start a cycle without having nolvadex on hand if need be.

As you've run previous cycles, I'd guess the gyno (if thats what it is) isn't test related. Do what Pumped101 says and you should be ok. I'd probably run arimidex throughout my next cycle if I were gyno sensitive.

Why run Deca and Tren together?
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I have been on now for 4 weeks, test @ 500, deca@ 250, and tren@ about 150per week. this is nothing compared to past cycles. However In the past 4 days, my cehst appears swolen and tender.

I am fearing GYNECOMASTIA, and have been as I never experienced it, I never worried! Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
Immediately start Femara (letrozole) at 1.25 milligrams per day. Nolvadex will not be effective.

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Immediately start Femara (letrozole) at 1.25 milligrams per day. Nolvadex will not be effective.

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My understanding of Femara is it inhibits aromatisation,but it wont bind to the estrogen receptor to reduce the effects of present estrogens.

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