hi im a noob

[biggerbuds1000]

hi i wont to take steriods for the first time in my life.i have been gym for last 1 year.i am 29 years old. please could someone help me by telling me what steriods i should take for the very first time. what ever happens i am going to be taking something to help me on my way i no full well that steriods can harm me in meany ways.i am 10 stone and find it hard to put on pounds.i am eating well and been using maximusle cyclone, promax ,creatamax extreme creatine. i proberly dont wont to get as big as most of you do.i do not wont to be taking steriods for years too.i just wont to take steriods say 2 cycles and try to keep all that i put on if you no what i mean.please help me out.please dont tell me to go away and do more reading up on taking steriods,please dont tell me im not ready for them yet,just tell me what i should take cos im going to just take them anyway.i no someone must be able to help me with what to take for the first time.

[Reinheart]

Originally Posted by biggerbuds1000

hi i wont to take steriods for the first time in my life.i have been gym for last 1 year.i am 29 years old. please could someone help me by telling me what steriods i should take for the very first time. what ever happens i am going to be taking something to help me on my way i no full well that steriods can harm me in meany ways.i am 10 stone and find it hard to put on pounds.i am eating well and been using maximusle cyclone, promax ,creatamax extreme creatine. i proberly dont wont to get as big as most of you do.i do not wont to be taking steriods for years too.i just wont to take steriods say 2 cycles and try to keep all that i put on if you no what i mean.please help me out.please dont tell me to go away and do more reading up on taking steriods,please dont tell me im not ready for them yet,just tell me what i should take cos im going to just take them anyway.i no someone must be able to help me with what to take for the first time.

Hello yourself and welcome aboard.

It's way too early to start thinking about steroids. Stick in the training and nutrition forums. How tall are you? 10 Stone is skinny to the bone. When i first begun i weighted 55kg and you could count all the bones in my body one by one. Skip forward a couple years i weight 75kg (12 stone, 165 pounds) with 8% bodyfat at 180cm (around 5'10). That's 40lbs of muscle and i keep growing naturally just fine.

Post up all your stats (height, weight, bodyfat %, etc), your nutrition and your training regimen.
All in details please.

What if we tell you what to do? What do you possibly know about PCT, proper nutrition and training? How do we know you don't have any hormonal or other health problems that steroids are going to aggravate? Take it easy here. No one grew overnight, even on the gear. Stick around and you're going to learn a lot. Hurry up and take steroids without being ready and fuck your hormonal system up for life. That's what you want?

[smaretick]

Originally Posted by biggerbuds1000

hi i wont to take steriods for the first time in my life.i have been gym for last 1 year.i am 29 years old. please could someone help me by telling me what steriods i should take for the very first time. what ever happens i am going to be taking something to help me on my way i no full well that steriods can harm me in meany ways.i am 10 stone and find it hard to put on pounds.i am eating well and been using maximusle cyclone, promax ,creatamax extreme creatine. i proberly dont wont to get as big as most of you do.i do not wont to be taking steriods for years too.i just wont to take steriods say 2 cycles and try to keep all that i put on if you no what i mean.please help me out.please dont tell me to go away and do more reading up on taking steriods,please dont tell me im not ready for them yet,just tell me what i should take cos im going to just take them anyway.i no someone must be able to help me with what to take for the first time.

A good place to start is with some basic research...try the 'sticky's' on the forum and also, after only a year of training, you aren't ready for steroids. AAS should only be considered after you've reached your genetic potential...which after a year of training, you haven't. However, given your previous statements, you probably won't pay attention to that advice...so, I'll at least point you in the right direction.

Test is probably the best basic AAS for any cycle. Try the following link for some info:

Bodybuilding.com - Big Cat - 43 Full Steroid Profiles!

Pay particular attention to the links for test cypionate, test enanthate, test propionate, and sustanon. Also, do some research on PCT (post cycle therapy).

Hope this helps. (I'm reluctantly providing this information to hopefully prevent you from going out and purchasing/using AAS in a manner that will cause your body irrepairable damage).

[Reinheart]

Yes, if you're not going to change your mind as the person above said, your cycle should look like this:

Weeks 1-12: 500mgs Testosterone every week
Weeks 1-4: 30mgs Dianabol every week (optional)

Weeks: 15+16: 40mgs Nolvadex every day
Weeks 17+18: 20mgs Nolvadex every day

I would also suggest adding 2 proviron tabs every day throughout your entire cycle (weeks 1-12). One in the morning and another one after 12 hours.

[biggerbuds1000]

hi and thanks for getting back to me so soon.this is not what i wonted to hear but there you go.its made me feel sick.so im not ready for steriods,i am going to listen to what you have said to me as i never listen and allways end up in trouble.im just sick to death of being a skinny little twig,ive allways been skinny,i had a real hard time at school because of it i got beat everyday anyway anuff of feeling sorry for myself.i workout in gym 3-4 times a week and i lift as heavy as i can.how many more years ruffly would i need to workout before i should think about taking steriods.when would i no that i was ready ?.i have been reading up on taking steriods and working out and all that alot.but one site says this and one says that.it just feels like i dont no what to belive and i feel fustrated.i just wish that arnold schwarzenegger would come and train me up and show me how and what i need to do and tell me when i was ready for juice.but that is'nt going to happen so i quess ill have to struggle and proberly never end up with the body i dream about.everyone at my gym tell me that steriods are bad and that if i do them they will turn there back on me,but there not a twig like me see ,atleast most of them have a little muscle.i feel bad in myself when i walk in the gym noing im so small,i feel like they all look and laugh at me cos of how skinny and silly i look and that is why i got it in my head that i will take steriods right now so sorry if i come across like a little twat in my first post SORRY.i am im going to read up on this site everyday and learn all i can from all yous lot and hopefully one day i will get the body of my dreams

[Reinheart]

Originally Posted by biggerbuds1000

hi and thanks for getting back to me so soon.this is not what i wonted to hear but there you go.its made me feel sick.so im not ready for steriods,i am going to listen to what you have said to me as i never listen and allways end up in trouble.im just sick to death of being a skinny little twig,ive allways been skinny,i had a real hard time at school because of it i got beat everyday anyway anuff of feeling sorry for myself.i workout in gym 3-4 times a week and i lift as heavy as i can.how many more years ruffly would i need to workout before i should think about taking steriods.when would i no that i was ready ?.i have been reading up on taking steriods and working out and all that alot.but one site says this and one says that.it just feels like i dont no what to belive and i feel fustrated.i just wish that arnold schwarzenegger would come and train me up and show me how and what i need to do and tell me when i was ready for juice.but that is'nt going to happen so i quess ill have to struggle and proberly never end up with the body i dream about.everyone at my gym tell me that steriods are bad and that if i do them they will turn there back on me,but there not a twig like me see ,atleast most of them have a little muscle.i feel bad in myself when i walk in the gym noing im so small,i feel like they all look and laugh at me cos of how skinny and silly i look and that is why i got it in my head that i will take steriods right now so sorry if i come across like a little twat in my first post SORRY.i am im going to read up on this site everyday and learn all i can from all yous lot and hopefully one day i will get the body of my dreams

Hey, take it easy, ok? I have been in your shoes and know exactly how it feels. You must not push things or you'll get fucked up, period. You have to love what you do in order to get the most out of it. Don't expect much otherwise. Please post your stats give us a detailed description of your training and nutrition. Not just i work out 4 times a week and lift heavy. We want all the exercises, sets, reps etc. Remember, you must NOT stay in the gym for more than 75 minutes.

[biggerbuds1000]

one more Q, if i was to do this right now what is the % out of 100 chance that things could go right for me and not hert my body and get some mass

Weeks 1-12: 500mgs Testosterone every week
Weeks 1-4: 30mgs Dianabol every week (optional)

Weeks: 15+16: 40mgs Nolvadex every day
Weeks 17+18: 20mgs Nolvadex every day

2 proviron tabs every day throughout your entire cycle (weeks 1-12). One in the morning and another one after 12 hours.

[biggerbuds1000]

Originally Posted by Reinheart

Hey, take it easy, ok? I have been in your shoes and know exactly how it feels. You must not push things or you'll get fucked up, period. You have to love what you do in order to get the most out of it. Don't expect much otherwise. Please post your stats give us a detailed description of your training and nutrition. Not just i work out 4 times a week and lift heavy. We want all the exercises, sets, reps etc. Remember, you must NOT stay in the gym for more than 75 minutes.

i will put my stats up as soon as i can

[Reinheart]

Here's a good sample training routine for you:

Monday:
Chest, biceps, forearms

Flat bench press: 4x 6-10 reps
Incline Dumbbell Press: 4 x 6-10 reps
Flat Dumbbell Flyes: 4x 12-15 reps

Standing barbell or dumbbell curls: 3x8-12
Preacher Curls: 3x8-12
Incline Hammer Curls: 3x8-12

Wrist Curls: 3x12-15
Reverse wrist curls: 3x12-15

Tuesday:
Legs, calves

Squat or Front Squat: 4x10-20
Leg Press: 3x10-12
Lying leg curls: 3x10-12
Standing Calf Raises: 3x10-15
Seated Calf Raises: 3x10-15

Wednesday: Off

Thursday:
Back, Triceps

Pull-downs or Pull-ups (Wide Grip) 4x12,10,10,8
Bent Over Barbell Rows (Wide Grip) 3x6-10
Cable rows (close grip) 3x12,10,8
Deadlifts: 3x6

Straight bar cable push-downs 3x10-15
Seated Dumbbell Extensions: 3x6-10
Close Grip Bench Presses: 3x6-10
Dips: 3x6-10

Wednesday:
Shoulders, traps

Military Presses:3x6-12
Side Laterals:3x10-12
Front Dumbbell Raise 3x10-12
Bent-Over dumbell raises:3x10-12
Dumbell Shrugs:3x6-10
Low Pulley Row To Neck: 3x10-12

Do ab work 2-3 times a week followed by 3 sets of hyper extensions. Always warm up properly and stretch.

[Reinheart]

A little nagging thing, please, please (!!!) type properly because i get a hard time reading your posts.
Just a friendly piece of advice.

[biggerbuds1000]

Originally Posted by Reinheart

A little nagging thing, please, please (!!!) type properly because i get a hard time reading your posts.
Just a friendly piece of advice.

no probs reinheart,thanks for that workout plan it sound 100% better then my current workout. i will crack on with it

[Reinheart]

No worries bro! I'm glad you liked it. Remember, good form is a must to get the most out of each exercise and muscle gains, not ultra heavy weights with sloppy form.

What time do you wake up in the morning and how many meals do you have per day at this point?

Shoulders and traps are worked in Friday, not Wednesday. My bad. I missed it!

You can rotate your routine to achieve even greater results. For example chest day could be:

Week 1:

Bench press: 5 sets with very good form and 6-10 reps
Dumbbell Bench press: 5 sets with very good form and 6-10 reps
Dumbell Flyes: 5 sets with very good form and 10-15 reps

Week 2:

Incline Bench Press: 5 sets with very good form and 6-10 reps
Incline Dumbbell Press: 5 sets with very good form and 6-10 reps
Incline Cable Flyes: 5 sets with very good form and 10-15 reps

[biggerbuds1000]

hi im up at 6am or 9 am depends how i feel, i find it really hard to eat breakfast,so most of the time dont eat none if i do eat breakfast its just 2 bits brown bread toast.after i have been awake for 2-4 hours i can eat ok, by say 10am i have eaten 2 bits of toast and drunk a protein shake.12 i have tuna & brown pasta + sweetcorn. and some fruit
4pm 1 chicken breast and brown rice+protein shake
7pm jacket potatoe+ fish & maybe some peas then drink creatine
then i go gym for 45 minits to 1 hour
8.30pm what ever my girl has cooked for us
10.30pm steak & some fruit
11pm protein shake
i go to bed about 12 pm most days

also must i add i never really eat all on my plate i find it a real strugle to get it all down. and the eating times i have given is not very accurate too

[Reinheart]

Originally Posted by biggerbuds1000

hi im up at 6am or 9 am depends how i feel, i find it really hard to eat breakfast,so most of the time don't eat none if i do eat breakfast its just 2 bits brown bread toast.after i have been awake for 2-4 hours i can eat ok, by say 10am i have eaten 2 bits of toast and drunk a protein shake.12 i have tuna & brown pasta + sweetcorn. and some fruit
4pm 1 chicken breast and brown rice+protein shake
7pm jacket potatoes+ fish & maybe some peas then drink creatine
then i go gym for 45 minits to 1 hour
8.30pm what ever my girl has cooked for us
10.30pm steak & some fruit
11pm protein shake
i go to bed about 12 pm most days

also must i add i never really eat all on my plate i find it a real struggle to get it all down. and the eating times i have given is not very accurate too

I see. The base is good but the nutrition sucks major ass. To start off, you should eat every 2 1/2 to 3 hours to keep your metabolism ramped up and maximize energy and gains. You should also get at least 7 hours of sleep every night.Set your alarm at 7:30 - 8:00

Sample Nutrition:

First meal:Oatmeal with fresh skim milk, 5 egg whites, 1-2 fruits

Second Meal: 1-2 Toasts with whole wheat bread, 4 slices low fat cheese, 4 slices turkey, yogurt and tomato.

Third Meal: 500ml Fresh milk or protein shake, 20 raw almonds and fruits or fresh orange juice

Fourth Meal: 100-200gr Chicken breast with salad (two tbs olive oil) and 100 grams brown rice.

Fifth Meal: (Post-workout): Protein Shake with fresh 0% fat milk, 4 slices white bread with honey and a couple big bananas

Sixth Meal: 100-200 grams tuna or salmon, baked potatoes, and a small salad.

Seventh Meal: 200 grams yogurt and a fruit of your choice.

This plan is going to put a lot of pounds on you in no time ONLY IF you keep everything in check. Some chocolate in between wouldn't be bad either for the extra kcal.

You will supplement with a good multivitamin, a good protein with A LOT of aminos, creatine and hmb. Creatine should be taken first thing post-workout with a serving of hmb.

The other two servings of Hmb should first thing in the morning with the multivitamin and before bedtime.

No one said it's easy bro.

[biggerbuds1000]

Originally Posted by Reinheart

I see. The base is good but the nutrition sucks major ass. To start off, you should eat every 2 1/2 to 3 hours to keep your metabolism ramped up and maximize energy and gains. You should also get at least 7 hours of sleep every night.Set your alarm at 7:30 - 8:00

Sample Nutrition:

First meal:Oatmeal with fresh skim milk, 5 egg whites, 1-2 fruits

Second Meal: 1-2 Toasts with whole wheat bread, 4 slices low fat cheese, 4 slices turkey, yogurt and tomato.

Third Meal: 500ml Fresh milk or protein shake, 20 raw almonds and fruits or fresh orange juice

Fourth Meal: 100-200gr Chicken breast with salad (two tbs olive oil) and 100 grams brown rice.

Fifth Meal: (Post-workout): Protein Shake with fresh 0% fat milk, 4 slices white bread with honey and a couple big bananas

Sixth Meal: 100-200 grams tuna or salmon, baked potatoes, and a small salad.

Seventh Meal: 200 grams yogurt and a fruit of your choice.

This plan is going to put a lot of pounds on you in no time ONLY IF you keep everything in check. Some chocolate in between wouldn't be bad either for the extra kcal.

You will supplement with a good multivitamin, a good protein with A LOT of aminos, creatine and hmb. Creatine should be taken first thing post-workout with a serving of hmb.

The other two servings of Hmb should first thing in the morning with the multivitamin and before bedtime.

No one said it's easy bro.

may i ask what is Hmb ? thanks for this help you have given me,i will stick with this workout and eating plan.maybe this is why i feel so weak and drained half way through my workouts, sometimes i only can last 30 minits in the gym as i feel drained real bad