Hogg & GH Vets. Question about GH dose.

[RxMan]

I'm thinking about buying a Serostim 126iu kit. I have read a ton on this site and others and it seems like the proper dose varies greatly. Right now, I was just going to get one kit (~$425) for now. I'm considering running it at 2ius per day 5 on 2 off. This would be 10ius per week and last a little over 12 weeks. Would this method be worth my money? I also plan on running test and eq with it. Goal would be to lean out and add some quality muscle.

RxMan

[Big Moose]

I would suggest 4iu per day as a minimum. Possibly jumping to 6iu over a three month period of time. Otherwise it is not worth it in my experience.

[MaxRep]

If you're looking for anabolic help and adding muscle mass through GH you need to think about getting into the area of 6iu's/day and using insulin concurrently is a must. As is using it concurrently with an AAS cycle.

If you're still gaining off AAS cycles, the $400/month you'll spend on GH is a waste, IMO. Hogg may feel differently and you can PM him for his views.

However, as a heads up, Hogg isn't as nice as I am towards people who haven't done their homework before asking questions.

MaxRep

[da game]

I would recommend that you start off between 4-6 IUs a day. If you can't afford that, just stick to the juice and save your money.

[RxMan]

Thanks. I'll go with a higher dose per day and pick up 2 kits. Would 5 on 2 off still be the recommended schedule? I remember Hogg mentioning this, but, I can't seem to find the thread again.

[da game]

Originally Posted by RxMan

Thanks. I'll go with a higher dose per day and pick up 2 kits. Would 5 on 2 off still be the recommended schedule? I remember Hogg mentioning this, but, I can't seem to find the thread again.

Thats fine bro. You should make some good gains.

[RxMan]

I read all of these GH threads and I see many mentioning that they totally changed their bodies. I could always run another cycle or tweak the diet more. I am curious about this complete change that remains almost permanent.

[RxMan]

bump

[AnabolicAnimal]

though i have no personal gh experice it does seem that most would suggest that running it for under 6months isn't worth it. the longer your on the better seems to be the running theme.

[mikey1]

i dont agree iwth that, ive been on for 3 months and had great results, the longer your on the better is correct but you dont need 6 months for results

[scrappy]

Originally Posted by mikey1

i dont agree iwth that, ive been on for 3 months and had great results, the longer your on the better is correct but you dont need 6 months for results

yeah longer is better but you can see results fast in some cases

[Strenght-Gains]

Originally Posted by scrappy

yeah longer is better but you can see results fast in some cases

I think GH and it's effects are a case by case bases. Some peolpe love it others hate it. I've been doing 3.3 IU ED and I am so lightheaded and weak that I am going to scrap the other 18 bottles I have. Even running insulin with it still left me feeling hypo

[RxMan]

My response to it does worry me a bit. That's a lot of money to throw around if you end up not being able to take it. Most people like their GH from a trusted place/source. Have you tried going lower? Even thoough most recommend higher doses, I did read of a guy having problems at 4iu and going down to 2iu and having no problems at all and still seeing results.

[MaxRep]

Originally Posted by Strenght-Gains

I think GH and it's effects are a case by case bases. Some peolpe love it others hate it. I've been doing 3.3 IU ED and I am so lightheaded and weak that I am going to scrap the other 18 bottles I have. Even running insulin with it still left me feeling hypo

Are you saying you're running insulin with it and you still feel hypo? As in; you thought the insulin would make you less hypo? I may be misreading what you're saying but it's the insulin that's making you hypo. And if you're feeling hypo, you're not eating right.

Generally the people who hate HGH, are the ones who don't know how to use it properly. Again, there's no reason to use it unless you 1. have a lot of extra money or 2. are no longer getting any results from AAS alone.

If number 2 doesn't apply to you, there is nothing you will see from the GH that couldn't come from proper diet, training and AAS. The problem is most people are looking for GH to be a magic, muscle building potion. The sad thing is most people honestly don't even know their training, eating and rest habits are what's holding them back and then they take something like GH and can't figure out why it didn't work.

MaxRep

[Strenght-Gains]

Originally Posted by MaxRep

Are you saying you're running insulin with it and you still feel hypo? As in; you thought the insulin would make you less hypo? I may be misreading what you're saying but it's the insulin that's making you hypo. And if you're feeling hypo, you're not eating right.

Generally the people who hate HGH, are the ones who don't know how to use it properly. Again, there's no reason to use it unless you 1. have a lot of extra money or 2. are no longer getting any results from AAS alone.

If number 2 doesn't apply to you, there is nothing you will see from the GH that couldn't come from proper diet, training and AAS. The problem is most people are looking for GH to be a magic, muscle building potion. The sad thing is most people honestly don't even know their training, eating and rest habits are what's holding them back and then they take something like GH and can't figure out why it didn't work.

MaxRep

I may have confused hypo with hyper.I was under the impression that perhaps the GH was preventing the insulin from being used effectively. As for eating I eat every 2-3 hours. I am 6'1 and 290lbs. I am using the GH to strenghten connective tissue as I am a strongman athlete. I get my gear and advice from credible sources,however, none can give me an answer as to why I feel like shit when using GH. Hell 3.3IU ,what I use ED, is just a bit over 1mg a day. This is a theraputic dose given to seniors.