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Old 12-17-2008, 09:46 PM
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I don't think this one's been asked, but my searching kind of sucks so here it goes.....


What is the difference between using Nolvadex during pct vs. using Arimidex? What does the Nolva do for your system that the Adex doesn't?


The reason I ask is this,,,, I'm getting ready to come off a 8 week'r of 500mgs Cyp. only. I've run HCG throughout at 250i.u. 2x/wk (started at wk 4), and Ariximidex .5mg EOD.

My theory is to run the HCG about 2 weeks past my last test shot, and the Adex for about 4 weeks. If, by using the HCG throughout, I've never been shutdown, why the emphasis on getting the boys started again? Isn't that the purpose of a traditional pct, to restart after shutdown?


I thank you in advance for your thoughts.....
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My thoughts:

Nolva is a SERM, that means it blocks estrogen in certain tissue, like your chest. It does not stop the high levels of estrogen caused by using test. So it won't protect you from high blood pressure or prostate problems. It's a very bad choice that most in the body building community still use, sadly.
Arimidex is an AI that competes against the Test for the aromatase that makes estrogen from Test. It is very good at lowering sulphatase/estrone (E1) but not very good at stopping E2 (estradiol). Another common mistake. You should not be using Arimidex. Besides being weak at lowering E2 it causes a rebound effect because it is a "competitive" AI. Many people get sides like acne AFTER their cycle because of this rebound.
Letrozole/Aromasin/AIFM Now you're talking. These are suicidal AI's. They attach to the aromatase and kill it. So there is less aromatase in you to convert your test to E2. This is ideal for steroid users.
Letrozole may be a little strong for many men causing loss of erection and sore joints.

Yes, PCT is to restart your HPTA again. Use an AI with your HCG and add clomid or just continue your AI a couple extra weeks.
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:02 AM
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I don't think this one's been asked, but my searching kind of sucks so here it goes.....


What is the difference between using Nolvadex during pct vs. using Arimidex? What does the Nolva do for your system that the Adex doesn't?


The reason I ask is this,,,, I'm getting ready to come off a 8 week'r of 500mgs Cyp. only. I've run HCG throughout at 250i.u. 2x/wk (started at wk 4), and Ariximidex .5mg EOD.

My theory is to run the HCG about 2 weeks past my last test shot, and the Adex for about 4 weeks. If, by using the HCG throughout, I've never been shutdown, why the emphasis on getting the boys started again? Isn't that the purpose of a traditional pct, to restart after shutdown?


I thank you in advance for your thoughts.....
Have you gotten blood work confirming you are not shut down?
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If your just doing 500 test for 8 weeks your just wasting the hcg because it shouldnt take long at all to recover from that unless you have natural test problem or your old or something. Imean its probably fine but I wouldnt bother.
You want to run a-dex during your cycle to protect yourself and nolva for PCT. In layman's terms Dex blocks all estrogen and nolva blocks certain estrogen.
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I would use the hcg even on 8 week cycle..it couldn't hurt.
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I've gone without the HCG before, and just done a normal PCT. This time I wanted to try something different. Since everyone's body reacts a little differently to certain substances, amounts, times, etc., I figured I would give it a try...

My gains actually seem a bit improved over any other test only cycles I've done. I would like to attribute this to the HCG, and the addition of my natural test to the amounts of synthetic. (This sounds good in my head at least)

I've been quite happy with the cycle thus far, and just want to make sure I'm not making some dire mistake by not going with Clomid/Nolvadex at the end...
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