how do i know im getting in the muscle?

[redbeard]

arite i really apprecaite it guys and i feel like u guys are looking out for me more than this fucking guy. im thoroughly sketched out considering he mustnt even care what happens to me. thats just rediclous. fuck. i really appreciate it and will definetly stick around this forum u guys are the shit.

[andysutils]

ill make it short and sweet and give you a few facts here redbeard my friend.

well you know how the media give gear a real bad name?
you know how they tell you how many people have died from AAS use?
you know that gear is completely banned throughout the whole of the states?

WELL THIS PATHETIC WANKER IS ONE OF THE FKIN PEOPLE DIRECTLY RESPONSABLE for all 3 of what ive just mentioned.

PMSL@ the liver enlarge thing thats awesome big time.

hey, seem as though this god send cycle hes gave you blows your liver up so quickly, ask the bandit if hes got one that makes your fkin muscles grow as fast as your liver does lol.


ask him if hes got any good liver routines

3 x 10 liver presses

3x 10 incline liver curls

5 x 5 liver squats

go with nothing but 500mg test man if its your first cycle and you'll have no problems

[steroid500]

Originally Posted by andysutils

ill make it short and sweet and give you a few facts here redbeard my friend.

well you know how the media give gear a real bad name?
you know how they tell you how many people have died from AAS use?
you know that gear is completely banned throughout the whole of the states?

WELL THIS PATHETIC WANKER IS ONE OF THE FKIN PEOPLE DIRECTLY RESPONSABLE for all 3 of what ive just mentioned.

hahaha, true that

wanker, i love it! check pm bro

[redbeard]

arite ill run strictly the test. do u no how many cc's a week i should inject? i dout everythnig he told me now so id rather ask u guys.

[steroid500]

depending on much your looking to run, i like 500mgs/week...nice round number but its also gonig to aromatize to a point so also run anastrozol 0.5mg ed to prevent it to start, if you notice sore nips or bloating, bumps it up to 1mg ed

[redbeard]

i want to run as much as i have to to get the best gains. so wat do u think? 2cc's a week?

[Mulciber]

yeah 500mg test is a good start.. i run .25mg adex/ldex through all my cycles.
i usually run 10mg nolvadex as well but thats me.have had issues in the past ..its not necesary,
but id have nolvadex on hand just in case.. if gyno symptoms should still pop up i would take the nolvadex. i want to keep the circulating estrogen that is present and causing the problem from binding to the receptor at that point.
pct i like both clomid and nolvadex.. you will see many pct protocols. basicly got to figure out what works best for you.

[steroid500]

true, but taking nolva throughout dimishes gains, agreed have on hand though just in case

and have a good PCT...clomid at 100mg/nolva at 40mg ed for 4 weeks dropped to clomid at 50mg/nolva 20mg ed for 2 weeks is usually standard, i also prefere HCG, but its not necessary with straight test

[Mulciber]

im not sure about nolvadex deminishing gains .. i agree an AI is a better choice..
think the nolvadex reducing gains comes about due to the reduction in IGF-1.. no solid evidence of this either way.. see studies going both ways.. and its exogenous levels that are reduced.. think its IGF thats produced locally in the muscles that effects gains.. but its a topic that is always debated.. i see both sides of the issue. personally i dont see a diffrence.. but there are others that say differently.

[solo47]

Start here, Mr Redbeard: Phreezer's First cycle FAQ. Use 400 to 500 mgs each week of a long ester Test or Sustanon for 10 weeks. Follow with the prescribed PCT using Nolvadex and/or Clomid. Pause and think: How did it go? After a three or four months, you may want to try another cycle with more bang for your buck by adding Dbol or Deca, but still use the Test base. Plan ahead. Tread carefully. Listen to advice. Listen to your body.

Solo