How is this cycle?

[mrflorida2007]

This looks like a pretty good setup. What do you all think?

Week 1 to 13: 10mg Nolvadex Every Day
Week 1 to 16: 0.25 arimidex Every Other Day
Week 1 to 8: 3000-5000ius of HCG every 4th week
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of Prop Every Day
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of winny Every Day
Week 1 to 10: 50mg of proviron Every Day
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid Every Day
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid Every Day
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid Every Day




1 x ARIMIDEX 0.25mg (anastrazole) by IP CHINA, 50 tabs
2 x NOLVADEX 10mg by ZENNECA
3 x CLOMID 50mg, 10tabs by IP CHINA
2 x HCG (Pregnyl) 5000 IU, 1 amp by Organon
30 ML TEST PROPIONATE 100mg/ml by Stealth Labs
1 x WINSTROL 50mg/tab, 50 tabs by IP CHINA
7 x PROVIRON 25mg, 20 tabs by IP CHINA
2 x GLUCOPHAGE 100 tabs

[novicebb]

[quote=mrflorida2007]This looks like a pretty good setup. What do you all think?

Week 1 to 13: 10mg Nolvadex Every Day
Week 1 to 16: 0.25 arimidex Every Other Day
Week 1 to 8: 3000-5000ius of HCG every 4th week
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of Prop Every Day
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of winny Every Day
Week 1 to 10: 50mg of proviron Every Day
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid Every Day
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid Every Day
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid Every Day

I would put the Nolva off till the 2nd or 3rd week of cycle. You will not see any noticeable bloat or other estrogen side effects with test prop in just a week or two. Plus it would make absolutely no since in my opinion to take an aromatase inhibitior and a estrogen agonist/antagonist like Nolva all at the same time. A lot of people get great results with arimidix at 1/2 mg eod so .25mg everyday is good enough. You would be just wasting your Nolvadex. 1/4mg ed of Arimidex should be more then enough for just 350mg of Test Pro a week and 350mg of Winny per week.

With Winstrol you really would have no need for the proviron unless you are using the proviron to try and get more out of this cycle since Mesterolone(proviron) binds to SHBG and allows more of exogenous androgens to attach to anabolic receptors. Winny has some properties of proviron so it will bind to some SHBG but not to the extent of proviron.

The cycle of Test Prop at 50mg daily and Winstrol at 50mg daily is relatively a mild cycle and I don't think that HCG would be needed and especially at week 4 and 8 since you will either use nolvadex or arimidex during cycle and taking clomid after cycle. Unfortunately you have it and would possibly be expired by the time you start your next cycle so just save it for the end of your cycle and eliminate the nolva to save for another cycle.

[mrflorida2007]

I appreciate the reply. If I wanted to make that cycle less complex, how could i go about doing that? I'm looking to pack on some lean mass.....

I'm 28 yrs old 5'10" 189 lbs.....

[TheBeat]

This is how I would use your stuff:

PROPIONATE
Days 1- 60 - 50mg /day

STANOZOLOL
Days 1- 50: 50mg /day

PROVIRON
Days 51-63 - 100mg /day (end of arimidex till week 9)
Days 64-70 - 75mg /day (week 10)
Days 71-77 - 50mg /day (week 11)
Days 78-84 - 25mg /day (week 12)
(this will leave you with 46 extra, keep them around and use them for a boost - mentally, sexually, agressively -- like for sex, gym, sports, etc.)

ARIMIDEX
Days 1 to 50: 0.25 Arimidex /day
(this will stop 10 days before your Prop runs out, but since your Stanozolol runs out at the same time as the Arimidex it makes since to switch to Proviron and Nolvadex at this time.)

NOLVADEX
Days 51-60- 40mg /day
Days 61-77 - 20mg /day
Days 77-80 - 10mg /day
Days 81-84 - 5mg /day
(this will use 40, yeah your dose is dropping from 40 to 20 when you stop the Prop, but I set it up this way to maximize estrogen control, and Clomid, since you have it will start and help pick up any slack)

CLOMID
Days 61-70 - 100mg /day
Days 70-77 - 50mg /day
Days 77-80 - 25mg /day
Days 81-84 - 12.5mg /day

HCG
Days 21-60 - 250iu /day

GLUCOPHAGE 100 tabs
Not sure on the best use, but I would take 1/4-1/2 tab before your carb meals, standard dosing would be 2 per day, but this can leave you feeling nausous when you are not getting in carbs.


Not the simplest looking cycle, but is really basic all in all, and you should have great results. I personnally always use Test Prop with Proviron or Masteron in all of my cycles and love it.

[TheBeat]

By the way I think that it is a great cycle, only things I would have done different:
- A little more Arimidex
- Would have Nolvadex or Clomid, not both
- Wouldn't mess with the Glucophange
Of note; make sure that you have your diet down - I've known people who spent all of their extra money on their gear and didn't have enough money for the extra food. You also need to make sure that your diet and training stay on pact after your cycle as well, I do not think that you will lose hardly any gains personnally (at least muscle and strength-wise) if you keep on it. I would work out hard for 12 weeks and then take a week off from everything - training, supplements, etc.(of note: 12 weeks training with 1 week off = 13 weeks x 4 = 52 -one year) While on cycle work out as hard, when coming off decrease your volume and do more of a H.I.T. type program (I know I'll get crap for saying that)

[novicebb]

250i.u a day for 40 straight days I just don't know. I know that only equates to 1750i.u and many people take as much as 3000i.u but some take as little as 500i.u twice weekly for a total of 3 weeks total.

[ForemanRules]

[quote=novicebb]

Originally Posted by mrflorida2007

This looks like a pretty good setup. What do you all think?

Week 1 to 13: 10mg Nolvadex Every Day
Week 1 to 16: 0.25 arimidex Every Other Day
Week 1 to 8: 3000-5000ius of HCG every 4th week
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of Prop Every Day
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of winny Every Day
Week 1 to 10: 50mg of proviron Every Day
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid Every Day
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid Every Day
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid Every Day

I would put the Nolva off till the 2nd or 3rd week of cycle. You will not see any noticeable bloat or other estrogen side effects with test prop in just a week or two. Plus it would make absolutely no since in my opinion to take an aromatase inhibitior and a estrogen agonist/antagonist like Nolva all at the same time. A lot of people get great results with arimidix at 1/2 mg eod so .25mg everyday is good enough. You would be just wasting your Nolvadex. 1/4mg ed of Arimidex should be more then enough for just 350mg of Test Pro a week and 350mg of Winny per week.

With Winstrol you really would have no need for the proviron unless you are using the proviron to try and get more out of this cycle since Mesterolone(proviron) binds to SHBG and allows more of exogenous androgens to attach to anabolic receptors. Winny has some properties of proviron so it will bind to some SHBG but not to the extent of proviron.

The cycle of Test Prop at 50mg daily and Winstrol at 50mg daily is relatively a mild cycle and I don't think that HCG would be needed and especially at week 4 and 8 since you will either use nolvadex or arimidex during cycle and taking clomid after cycle. Unfortunately you have it and would possibly be expired by the time you start your next cycle so just save it for the end of your cycle and eliminate the nolva to save for another cycle.

1-8 Test prop 100-150mg EOD
Arimidex if needed, at 100mg eod I doubt you will need it.
HCH weeks 4-9
PCT begins 4 days after last test shot ( end HCG now)

[turboed]

mr florida,have you thought of doing double the dose eod instead of every day?the reason for me asking is cause i can get winstrol and suspension 50 mg of each in 1cc and i also don't know if is better to do 2 cc's at a time in one muscle eod or 1 cc but i have to poke myself every day,i don't know if my delts can hang with 2 cc,i know my quads and glutes can.