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How much strength do people think a first time steroid user could gain and retain by doing 3 back to back cycles of 2 weeks on, 4 weeks off with no pct, taking 20mg of halotestin per day over the 2 weeks?
I know that halotestin is not recommended for a first cycle, however, taking it for just 2 weeks is not long enough to do much damage and won't shut down endogenous test for very long at all. Normal test levels should easily return to normal within 4 weeks with no pct and even overshoot a little. Some would say that 2 weeks is not long enough to make too many strength gains, but I would imagine that strength would continue to increase in the off weeks. A lot of people have had good results with short cycles using strong androgens such as halo with minimal, if any side effects. The length of time off between cycles seems to vary, but 4-5 weeks seems to be the norm. I didn't include pct in the above example due to the fact that the side effects of drugs such as clomid in a lot of users would probably outweigh the benefits given that the cycle is so short.
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WRONG WRONG WRONG.. What... did you flunk Matrix algebra Bob??? it's 21.225% strength increase...
Sprintr, what we are really trying to tell you is that we have no idea what kind of strength gains you are going to make... There is no way for us to know, there is too many variables, such as training program, frequancy, diet, sleep, alcohal intake, illness, injury, etc.....
Will you notice some strength gain??? Probably, but if I had to guess, I would say not very much.. maybe a little though.
I think everyone should be concerned with sides. I don't think it's necessary to avoid using altogether if one is concerned about sides. There have been some articles posted about short cycles using strong androgens and the subjects have achieved good results with very minimal, if any sides.
I would consider the cycle I posted above purely for strength gain, however, I'm unsure if the gains could be kept. I also don't know whether it would be best to use for 10 days or 14 days. I have read that 10 days is not long enough to shut down endogenous test (some people are shut down for a short time only), yet if the cycle is extended to 14 days, it takes significantly longer for natural test levels to rebound. Perhaps one could make good strength gains, with very minimal, if any sides if a drug like halotestin was taken at a dose of 20mg for 10 days, followed by an off period of 20 days, where creatine was taken. This cycle would be repeated 3 times, followed by a 6 week off period, then repeated again. What I'd like to know is whether or not natural test levels would return to normal in 20 days following administration of 20mg halo for 10 days with no pct. I understand that there would be individual variations, but is it likely or unlikely that endogenous test levels would return to normal within 20 days?
Thanks.
Like one of the other guys mentioned, I think with short cycles you have to use short half-life products like prop, tren, dbol, etc. All in all, I think that short cycles repeated could produce some very nice gains that arent so explosive that people continually question whether you are natural or not. If you decide to give it a try, keep us posted.
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