How to not fuck up DNP

[GrowN]

Excellent thread!!! I have been wanting to know more and now I have it. Thanks much for all the great info and feedback.

GrowN

[Conciliator]

Originally Posted by Conciliator

Does anyone seriously buy this crap... please.

I should clarify. I'm not talking about DNP here, but the post before mine on sugar. Anyone who knows me knows that I've invested much time into researching DNP.

This is also the first I've seen evangelionpunk's conniption fit a few posts back. Looks like he's still sore he was schooled on DNP over at SSB. It's a long story, but basically I blew the whistle, brought up some very neglected aspects of DNP, implicated a DNP source, debated with a moderator, and then was banned for a minor infraction and wonderful unsubstatiated claims, all without any opportunity to speak, i.e. bullshit. It was censorship and politics at its best.

[elgaringo]

Originally Posted by Conciliator

I should clarify. I'm not talking about DNP here, but the post before mine on sugar. Anyone who knows me knows that I've invested much time into researching DNP.

This is also the first I've seen evangelionpunk's conniption fit a few posts back. Looks like he's still sore he was schooled on DNP over at SSB. It's a long story, but basically I blew the whistle, brought up some very neglected aspects of DNP, implicated a DNP source, debated with a moderator, and then was banned for a minor infraction and wonderful unsubstatiated claims, all without any opportunity to speak, i.e. bullshit. It was censorship and politics at its best.

Which bit dont you agree with? Well ok mayby I went a bit overboard on this bit:--

Remember when Surgeon General Everett Koop stated that tobacco was a harder habit to break than heroin? He was half right. All tobacco in America is sugar-cured. That's the habit people are trying to break--not tar and nicotine.

[srch4info]

Originally Posted by elgaringo

Which bit dont you agree with? Well ok mayby I went a bit overboard on this bit:--

Remember when Surgeon General Everett Koop stated that tobacco was a harder habit to break than heroin? He was half right. All tobacco in America is sugar-cured. That's the habit people are trying to break--not tar and nicotine.

Glad to hear you say that because when I read that I was speechless :-)

[Conciliator]

Originally Posted by elgaringo

Remember when Surgeon General Everett Koop stated that tobacco was a harder habit to break than heroin? He was half right. All tobacco in America is sugar-cured. That's the habit people are trying to break--not tar and nicotine.

You're seriously claiming that it's the sugar and not the nicotine that is addictive in cigarretes? So why are people who are trying to quit smoking wearing nicotine patches? What a ridiculous claim.

[elgaringo]

Originally Posted by Conciliator

You're seriously claiming that it's the sugar and not the nicotine that is addictive in cigarretes? So why are people who are trying to quit smoking wearing nicotine patches? What a ridiculous claim.

I agree the claim is wrong, and I already said I went overboard with this! Im just trying to stress how sugar is bad. Though I agree with a little in your coffee before a workout.

[ZenX]

I am getting really pissed off. I have been on DNP for almost 2 weeks at 500mg ED and I have lost only 1-2lbs...

I know I do not have bad stuff due to the fact that my source has very very good rep.

What can be going wrong, why isnt the dnp working; is it possible I have built up a tolerance over the past times I have done cycles?

[Conciliator]

Originally Posted by ZenX

I am getting really pissed off. I have been on DNP for almost 2 weeks at 500mg ED and I have lost only 1-2lbs...

I know I do not have bad stuff due to the fact that my source has very very good rep.

What can be going wrong, why isnt the dnp working; is it possible I have built up a tolerance over the past times I have done cycles?

1) I'm assuming that your DNP is crystal (250mg/caps). Crystal is not as strong as powder, as 25% of its weight is the sodium salt. This means you're taking 375mg/day of actual DNP. (And if your source has not increased the amount of DNP in his caps from 200mg to 250mg, like he announced he has, that would only be 300mg of actual DNP per day.)
2) A dose of 375mg/day would result in an average increase in metabolic rate of about 55% or so. That means if your metabolism is 3000 Cal/day, you're burning about an extra 1500 Cal.
3) Your diet can negate some of DNP's results. If you're eating an extra 500 cal/day (carb cravings, etc), then you'd only expect to lose 1000 cal/day, or 2 lbs/week. That might expain your results right there.
4) DNP is notorious for causing water retention. Even if you are watching your diet and cutting calories, this water weight can mask your fat loss, making the true fat loss almost impossible to calculate until after you finish the cycle and drop the water weight.
5) Tolerance to the drug does build up, particularly to lower doses. I haven't experienced this personally, but the research but Cutting and Tainter (1935) and also Simmons (1937) bears this out. You very well may need higher doses to elicit the same metabolic boost that you used to get from a lower dose. As always, take every increase in dosage very seriously and very carefully, especially duing this warm part of the year.

Hope that helps,
Conciliator

[ZenX]

Originally Posted by Conciliator

1) I'm assuming that your DNP is crystal (250mg/caps). Crystal is not as strong as powder, as 25% of its weight is the sodium salt. This means you're taking 375mg/day of actual DNP. (And if your source has not increased the amount of DNP in his caps from 200mg to 250mg, like he announced he has, that would only be 300mg of actual DNP per day.)
2) A dose of 375mg/day would result in an average increase in metabolic rate of about 55% or so. That means if your metabolism is 3000 Cal/day, you're burning about an extra 1500 Cal.
3) Your diet can negate some of DNP's results. If you're eating an extra 500 cal/day (carb cravings, etc), then you'd only expect to lose 1000 cal/day, or 2 lbs/week. That might expain your results right there.
4) DNP is notorious for causing water retention. Even if you are watching your diet and cutting calories, this water weight can mask your fat loss, making the true fat loss almost impossible to calculate until after you finish the cycle and drop the water weight.
5) Tolerance to the drug does build up, particularly to lower doses. I haven't experienced this personally, but the research but Cutting and Tainter (1935) and also Simmons (1937) bears this out. You very well may need higher doses to elicit the same metabolic boost that you used to get from a lower dose. As always, take every increase in dosage very seriously and very carefully, especially duing this warm part of the year.

Hope that helps,
Conciliator

Please check your PM

[ZenX]

Originally Posted by Conciliator

1) I'm assuming that your DNP is crystal (250mg/caps). Crystal is not as strong as powder, as 25% of its weight is the sodium salt. This means you're taking 375mg/day of actual DNP. (And if your source has not increased the amount of DNP in his caps from 200mg to 250mg, like he announced he has, that would only be 300mg of actual DNP per day.)
2) A dose of 375mg/day would result in an average increase in metabolic rate of about 55% or so. That means if your metabolism is 3000 Cal/day, you're burning about an extra 1500 Cal.
3) Your diet can negate some of DNP's results. If you're eating an extra 500 cal/day (carb cravings, etc), then you'd only expect to lose 1000 cal/day, or 2 lbs/week. That might expain your results right there.
4) DNP is notorious for causing water retention. Even if you are watching your diet and cutting calories, this water weight can mask your fat loss, making the true fat loss almost impossible to calculate until after you finish the cycle and drop the water weight.
5) Tolerance to the drug does build up, particularly to lower doses. I haven't experienced this personally, but the research but Cutting and Tainter (1935) and also Simmons (1937) bears this out. You very well may need higher doses to elicit the same metabolic boost that you used to get from a lower dose. As always, take every increase in dosage very seriously and very carefully, especially duing this warm part of the year.

Hope that helps,
Conciliator

Please check your PM

[Geebee52]

I bought DNP in July 23004. Can I still use it. Will it work the same as before ?
Thanks

[Conciliator]

Originally Posted by Geebee52

I bought DNP in July 23004. Can I still use it. Will it work the same as before ?
Thanks

Yes, your DNP should be just fine. It lasts a very long time.

[Geebee52]

Thanks. Very good new

[Geebee52]

Am I allowed to get black tea and coffee while on DNP ?
Are 150 g carbs enough ? (I undestood I should eat much carbs)

[Conciliator]

Originally Posted by Geebee52

Am I allowed to get black tea and coffee while on DNP ?
Are 150 g carbs enough ? (I undestood I should eat much carbs)

Yes, it's fine to drink black tea and coffee. Don't worry about how many grams of carbs you're getting. Just eat a mixed diet with plenty of protein and watch calories.