How to not fuck up DNP

[brewtus]

OK, started my cycle yesterday. 200mg yesterday and today, then I'll bump to 400mg for 8 or 10 days. Taking a Centrum in the morning and 1 cap of SAN Tight with the first daily dose. I'll check back in with status updates.

Diet is mainly meat and vegetables. One question is this: I read earlier in this thread that fructose is a desirable carb during cycle, but is there any added benefit to minimizing other carbs? I know it affects your energy level, but I've had no problems with energy in previous cycles when using energy supplements. Will I burn more fat with no bread/rice/cereal?

Also, a side note: I've observed more women having medical problems as side effects than men. The majority of posts I've read on various forums about people having severe reactions (allergic or otherwise) from DNP have been from women. My girlfriend also had a bad allergic reaction which sent her to the ER; swelling, hives, etc.

Will report back in 2-3 days. Thanks!

[brewtus]

Up to 400mg per day, and feeling the heat. Summertime in Florida. I don't mind it much, though. I'm used to sweating during summer... I'd much rather be hot than cold anyway. Some more questions pondered along the way:

-Is there any correlation between how much you sweat and how much fat you burn, other than the relationship between perspiration and dosage?
-Is there a correlation between water intake and fat loss? Since water is the medium in which all metabolic processes take place, does it follow that I'll burn more fat by drinking more water (since the body pretty much uses everything I take in)?
-Wouldn't weight training cause muscle loss while on DNP? Since weight training breaks down muscle fibers (in order to regenerate with protein synthesis), and since the body doesn't have enough energy to build muscle while on DNP, then wouldn't you just be tearing down muscle? Sure, you'd be burning tons of calories, but there are other ways do accomplish this.
-I've noticed that I'm wide awake when I need to go to sleep; I wonder if it's due to residual effects from the SAN Tight I take around 10am, or if it's possible that DNP promotes mental awareness (I typically feel pretty mentally energetic all day), even though it drains you physically.

OK, enough for now. More later.

[Conciliator]

Originally Posted by brewtus

One question is this: I read earlier in this thread that fructose is a desirable carb during cycle, but is there any added benefit to minimizing other carbs? I know it affects your energy level, but I've had no problems with energy in previous cycles when using energy supplements. Will I burn more fat with no bread/rice/cereal?

You will burn more fat if you reduce your carb intake (e.g. no bread/rice/cereal). That's because you're consuming fewer calories and creating a greater caloric deficit. Fat has to make up the difference. However, you can only cut calories so far before the contribution from fat is maxed out and you start to lose muscle. I think the best results will come from cutting calories 500-1000 per day (assumng a low to moderate dose of DNP). If you're cutting calories more aggressively (such as 1000 per day), I'd be sure to take something that helps mobilize fat, like EC or clen.

Originally Posted by brewtus

Also, a side note: I've observed more women having medical problems as side effects than men. The majority of posts I've read on various forums about people having severe reactions (allergic or otherwise) from DNP have been from women. My girlfriend also had a bad allergic reaction which sent her to the ER; swelling, hives, etc.

I don't think women have any greater incidence of side effects than men. Some form of rash seems to occur pretty uniformly in about 15% of DNP users, with a small percentage of that manifesting severe rash/hives (like what happened with your GF). The only exception I see might be with cataracts. In the 1930's there were 164 case reports of cataracts, but only 3 of those cases were in men. That might be simply because the drug was used much more by women than by men. Another possible explanation is the link between cataracts and antioxidant deficiency. More women may have developed cataracts due to smaller diets with insufficient antioxidant intake (such as vitamin C). It's also possible that women just develop them more than men, though I'd bet on the former.

[LifeSize]

Originally Posted by Conciliator

You will burn more fat if you reduce your carb intake (e.g. no bread/rice/cereal). That's because you're consuming fewer calories and creating a greater caloric deficit. Fat has to make up the difference. However, you can only cut calories so far before the contribution from fat is maxed out and you start to lose muscle. I think the best results will come from cutting calories 500-1000 per day (assumng a low to moderate dose of DNP). If you're cutting calories more aggressively (such as 1000 per day), I'd be sure to take something that helps mobilize fat, like EC or clen.
I don't think women have any greater incidence of side effects than men. Some form of rash seems to occur pretty uniformly in about 15% of DNP users, with a small percentage of that manifesting severe rash/hives (like what happened with your GF). The only exception I see might be with cataracts. In the 1930's there were 164 case reports of cataracts, but only 3 of those cases were in men. That might be simply because the drug was used much more by women than by men. Another possible explanation is the link between cataracts and antioxidant deficiency. More women may have developed cataracts due to smaller diets with insufficient antioxidant intake (such as vitamin C). It's also possible that women just develop them more than men, though I'd bet on the former.

I'm quoting just so you know I'm talking to you.. 750mg Test E, 300mg Tren A..weekly, along with 400mg of DNP daily.. Whew! This shits melting off by the fucking hour.. I'm about as hot as I feel on 600mg ED..

[cyanize]

Well I'm about to start a DNP cycle in September, 3-4 weeks on relatively low dosages. So I'd appreciate any comments.

I'm going to start @ 200mg in the mornings for 5 days, and if I feel comfortable increase to 300mg on days 6-21. I did take a look at the regimen.xls file and checked the overall concentrations in my body (I want to keep peak concentrations under 700mg all the time), and therefore I'm going to split the 300mg into 200 in the mornings and 100 in the afternoons. What I always wanted to know, why doesn't every "DNP cycle" thread here include the regimen spreadsheet....I think it helps a lot with controlling progress and avoiding a huge (and possibly dangerous) buildup. What's a safe peak concentration anyway @Conciliator?

Goal is to drop from 16-17%bf to 8-9% (about 15lbs of fat in my case), either in one cycle on or in two.

I'm also doing an E/C stack with a daily dose of 50/400 split into 2-4 smaller ones. Diet will be down from my maintenance of 2700kCal to 1900-2200 (depending on, if I'm working out or not), with probably a 40/40/20 split. I'll try to keep my 3 days in the gym (mostly compounds) and maybe add some cardio. (I rather further reduce calories, than do cardio to be honest)

Supps and antioxidants will remain the same as usual, (I take a bunch that acts anti-inflammatory anyway, due to my multiple sclerosis). I'm considering adding some glycerine to the mix.

It's my first post....but I've been an avid reader of these boards for quite some time.
Thanks for any advice.

[dickprofin1]

yes, lets hear about how it goes.

[dickprofin1]

sorry, i also want to thank everyone who has made and informative contribution to this amazing thread!!!!!

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[Conciliator]

Originally Posted by cyanize

What's a safe peak concentration anyway @Conciliator?

That's going to vary significantly from person to person. Sensitivity to DNP is something that's very individual. Also, for a given person, sensitivity can change during a long cycle as tolerance develops. A moderate dose for most people is somewhere between 200 and 400 mg/day of an accurately dosed product.

[COUGAR BAIT]

What actually happens when someone takes a low carb approach on DNP?

[Conciliator]

Originally Posted by COUGAR BAIT

What actually happens when someone takes a low carb approach on DNP?

I think most people will feel better on a higher carb intake. But if you function well on low carbs and are on a low carb diet, there's no reason you can't add DNP to it. See how things go. If you feel low on energy, try upping your carb intake. DNP will increase your metabolic rate whether you eat a lot of carbs or not; they're not necessary for DNP to work. However, you'll probably feel better with them in yout diet. You'll have to experiment and find out what works for you as an individual.