How to not fuck up DNP

[Colin]

Originally Posted by OC Cartel

please. thanks.

I thought I had it bookmarked but evidently I was mistaken.

I did search for it on M&M but his training ideology WRT DNP isn't some sort of Holy Grail.

I've gotten similiar results with 30 minutes of heavier lifting each morning followed by 15 minutes of jogging,the large caloric deficit and training in the AM (moreso the former) take precedence over methods of training.

Loki's idea was to do compound movements with relatively light weight and high reps with little rest.for a half hour i the AM e.g.lift at a frantic pace intil you simply cannot do so any longer.1/2 hour of this on DNP @ 600mg per day (actual DNP content,not crystalline DNP) will accomplish this.

PM training was an slow/easy 1/2 hour session on a recombant bike,being careful to avoid excessively taxing the CNS.

Sorry I couldn't follow through but I did stumble across another good thread while searching,DNP on UD 2.0,which was big tyme over on M&M back in the day.

MrQ's DNP Guide on UD2 - Mind and Muscle Forums

I'd personally never do UD 2.0,as I loathe timing meals and so on.Carb loading on DNP would also pretty much take the reward out of overeating e.g. muay calentie,no bueno.

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by Conciliator

DNP is not harmless "just like EPO." If you overdose you will die from a fatal hyperthermia, no matter how hydrated you are. The idea that staying hydrated is all you need to do to completely prevent overheating is false.

And your prof is ???? Nothing just as usual just like all others who have their own theories

Take 1,000 mg and you die but who will do that...

take 10 grams of Tren and I am sure you will have probelms... You not me but point understood?

OK mrest my case.

You don't know nhow DNP works and I am so tired of explaining to those who assume cause they don't want newbees to get ahead....

Send me some DNP and have someone you trust in jersey to monitor my cycle then tell me your theory ... Until then please stop your theories

[Colin]

Originally Posted by MANWHORE

And your prof is ???? Nothing just as usual just like all others who have their own theories

Take 1,000 mg and you die but who will do that...

take 10 grams of Tren and I am sure you will have probelms... You not me but point understood?

OK mrest my case.

You don't know nhow DNP works and I am so tired of explaining to those who assume cause they don't want newbees to get ahead....

Send me some DNP and have someone you trust in jersey to monitor my cycle then tell me your theory ... Until then please stop your theories

DNP can easily cause death if not used with caution,labeling with a blanket term like "safe" is far from accurate.Taking a fraction of a gram and then proceeding to run a 5K under the August sun could kill you,there is a veriatable plethora of ways to die via DNP misuse.

Not that I need to speak for him but come on man,concede to being in the wrong.Conciliator clearly has a firm grasp on how DNP exerts its effects,this is blatantly obvious when reading over his posts on DNP.He has researched the issue thoroughly so give credit where credit is due.

[MANWHORE]

DNP doesn't raise body tempenter but lowers it so please stop non sense......

Hydrate yourself like Animal says and use products he says to increase energy
also take in lot of carbs since it keep carbs from gettin to muscles...

Look I am drinking now so I can't descuse everything now about it but stop kissing ass please when you have no idea...

DNP is as harmless as acedaminaphine so stop the none sense.

After all these years I am still surprised to see this.

Read Animals manual and learn before speaking.

Just like Tren causes low libido after 4 yrs on it.

You guys keep working in test tubes then keep to yourself don't ever question me

Now I know why I left this place like many others

[MANWHORE]

Tylenol can cause death too so what your point... ????

I am finished explainiing simple shit to this board who should alrready know their shit.

If you want to know fact then PM me if not then keep listening to these theories of bullshit

[Colin]

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Look I am drinking now so I can't descuse everything now about it but stop kissing ass please when you have no idea...
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I'm not going to address the fallacies in your arguement as doing so would be fruitless but this line is classic.

FTR,no ass kissing is being performed.It's a matter of paying simple courtesy and respect towards another human being whose research deserves acknowledgement.

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by Colin

I'm not going to address the fallacies in your arguement as doing so would be fruitless but this line is classic.

I love to see how far people will go arguing.

BUT you really do have no idea . I am Russian and even drinking vodka I know what I say.

I hope to be friends with you anyway..... I would hate to kill you

There is only theory trust me no real research going on ....
Not going to kill anyone either. I need permission for that as you might know already :-)

Theory is theory fact is fact .. .. .Like I say give me a ton of DNP and I take so you see fact

[Conciliator]

Originally Posted by MANWHORE

And your prof is ???? Nothing just as usual just like all others who have their own theories

No, it's not a theory. And "just as usual" I have support for what I say. I have refereces to the orignial clinical studies on DNP, to modern academic papers on it, to case reports, etc. Would you like me to post case reports of fatal overdose where all the stops, including cooling blankets and intravenous fluids, failed to keep DNP overdose from causing fatal hyperthermia?

Originally Posted by MANWHORE

Take 1,000 mg and you die but who will do that...

take 10 grams of Tren and I am sure you will have probelms... You not me but point understood?

OK mrest my case.

Well, if this is your case, it was sure a poor attempt. Do you not realize you're contradicting yourself? First you say "Just stay hydrated and you will be fine..." I argued that this wasn't true and that you can overdose and die with a high enough dose, regardless of hydration. All you did with "your case" was agree with me, saying that 1 gram can kill you. If you're sensitive enough to DNP, a much lower dose can kill you, especially if you're in a hot environment, even if you're hydrated.

Originally Posted by MANWHORE

You don't know nhow DNP works and I am so tired of explaining to those who assume cause they don't want newbees to get ahead....

I thought this was pretty funny. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about if you think I don't know how DNP works. I'm currently writing a book on it. I think I probably know a lot more about how it works than you do.

Originally Posted by MANWHORE

Send me some DNP and have someone you trust in jersey to monitor my cycle then tell me your theory ... Until then please stop your theories

I think you're confused about what I was arguing. People with poor comprehension skills tend to do that a lot. Then you end up arguing about different things, because you can't stay on topic. I am not arguing that DNP cannot be used in a safe manner, without harm. People do so all the time. I am arguing that your blanket statement to "Just stay hydrated and you will be fine..." is incorrect. People who are well hydrated with IV fluids still succumb to fatal hyperthermia when a large enough dose of DNP has been taken. Yes, staying hydrated will help prevent overheating, but to a limited extent. There is no question that a very large dose of DNP can overpower the body's cooling ability, causing a fatal fever, even when a person is well hydrated. That was the original point, and it still stands. The fact that lower doses like you might take don't cause hyperthermia is irrelevant.

I'm not going to waste time responding to your other posts, which show an assinine understanding of toxicology. Water can kill people through water intoxication. It doesn't make it "just as dangerous" as tylenol or DNP or arsenic. Yes, they can all kill you in sufficient quantities. But don't ignore that those quantities vary significantly, along with their relative toxicity.

[MANWHORE]

DNP will not raise body temp it works different then clen so think what you want as usual

not here to argue

[Conciliator]

Originally Posted by MANWHORE

DNP will not raise body temp it works different then clen so think what you want as usual

This is extremely ignorant. There is no question that DNP can raise body temperature. DNP is a pure thermogenic. A direct effect of proton leak is the generation of heat. At lower doses of DNP, the body is able to dissipate that heat. Body temperature will remain within the normal range. It may even drop, as the body's thermoregulation overcompensates for the heat being produced by DNP. As the dose of DNP increases, however, it becomes increasingly difficult for the body to dissipate the additional heat. A high dose of DNP will produce a fever, with body temperature rising above the normal upper range of 99.1. In DNP logs, people report temperatures in the 100s or 101s. As explained in the original clinical research, a high temperature is the number one sign of impending toxicity, due to an excessive dose. Case reports of overdose routinely describe body temperatures rising to 104+ deg F. If you think that DNP is unable to cause hyperthermia, you're sorely mistaken.