HGH and weight gain

[greyowl]

The first time I used HGH I never went over 2.5 ius ed and usually less (I'm using it for anti-aging, not muscle-building) and never noticed any effect on my weight. Went off for a couple of months and started using again earlier this week at 3 ius ed (Jintropin). Coincidentally I also started cutting, but instead of losing weight my scales are pinned at the sam poundage as when I started cutting.

Could it be that my weight has plateaued even though I'm cutting because the HGH is increasing my weight. If so, am I right in assuming that the extra weight caused by the HGH at this early a stage in the cycle is water?

[scrappy]

Originally Posted by greyowl

The first time I used HGH I never went over 2.5 ius ed and usually less (I'm using it for anti-aging, not muscle-building) and never noticed any effect on my weight. Went off for a couple of months and started using again earlier this week at 3 ius ed (Jintropin). Coincidentally I also started cutting, but instead of losing weight my scales are pinned at the sam poundage as when I started cutting.

Could it be that my weight has plateaued even though I'm cutting because the HGH is increasing my weight. If so, am I right in assuming that the extra weight caused by the HGH at this early a stage in the cycle is water?

Hey Grey, I started yesterday and my hands are already swelling up. I'm interested in cutting too and I'll let you know if I find the scale won't go down.

What else are you taking? ECA, t-3, AAS?

[greyowl]

Originally Posted by scrappy

Hey Grey, I started yesterday and my hands are already swelling up. I'm interested in cutting too and I'll let you know if I find the scale won't go down.

What else are you taking? ECA, t-3, AAS?

I'm taking nothing else right now. I don't notice any swelling, and didn't on my first cycle of GH either, but the doses are so small I would be surprised if I did.

How many ius are you taking? What type?

[einstein1905]

Originally Posted by greyowl

The first time I used HGH I never went over 2.5 ius ed and usually less (I'm using it for anti-aging, not muscle-building) and never noticed any effect on my weight. Went off for a couple of months and started using again earlier this week at 3 ius ed (Jintropin). Coincidentally I also started cutting, but instead of losing weight my scales are pinned at the sam poundage as when I started cutting.

Could it be that my weight has plateaued even though I'm cutting because the HGH is increasing my weight. If so, am I right in assuming that the extra weight caused by the HGH at this early a stage in the cycle is water?

What brand were you using the first run?
Yes, the early gains are very likely water, but usually muscular water retention rather than subQ, so it is "beneficial" water. It's very common to maintain a constant weight and increase LBM/reduce bf% while on just GH.

[scrappy]

Originally Posted by greyowl

I'm taking nothing else right now. I don't notice any swelling, and didn't on my first cycle of GH either, but the doses are so small I would be surprised if I did.

How many ius are you taking? What type?

Against einstein's recomendation, I actually am on the nutropin depot. I had a good source and good price so I got a few. I had them before I heard einstein's opinion. I've heard a lot of good review though from bros who've taken it.
I ran and 18mg kit yesterday, I'll do another one in 4 weeks and then on to the 22.5mg kits. We'll see how it goes.

I'm going to run DNP for a short clip and try to lose some fat. Probably not for another 2 weeks though. Then it's on to the AAS and I have some long igf for the end of it all. Should be a fun ride. My goal is actually to get stronger and not gain much weight. I'll be running lower dose AAS cycles of things like Test, EQ, Var and mast.

[greyowl]

Originally Posted by einstein1905

What brand were you using the first run?.

Same as now -- jintropin.
What's your knock agaionst nutropin?
There's many anecdotes on the board that a type of HGH called Eurotech (same as Somaject?) at about 6 ius ed actually causes people to drop weight rapidly.

Any theory about why certain types of HGH might have different effects?

Originally Posted by einstein1905

Yes, the early gains are very likely water, but usually muscular water retention rather than subQ, so it is "beneficial" water. It's very common to maintain a constant weight and increase LBM/reduce bf% while on just GH?.

Well that's good news, but it's hard for me to track this over time because I'm terrible at using calipers to meausre my body fat, and tanita scales are useless.

[einstein1905]

Just to clarify, I advise against nutropin only because of its constant release, which will likely suppress the vast majority of your endogenous GH, so that you won't be able to time things to get that added benefit. However, if you get a good price and dose it right, then it's a good product. Very convenient/user-friendly too.

[cvguy]

GrayOwl...I'm an old fart like you...have been thinking about doing GH for anti-aging as well.

What has your experience been like? Is it worth the $$$$$$$ ???

[einstein1905]

I think people's take on different effects of different brands of GH are not very sound. It's all the same sequence (except for the few brands w/ one extra amino acid) and purifying it is going to yeild pretty much the same purity levels no matter who does it. The anecdotal discrepancies in results with different brands are likely not due to the different brands at all but rather are due to other differences that may not be readily apparent at the time (diet, rest, workout, other supplements)

[greyowl]

Originally Posted by cvguy

GrayOwl...I'm an old fart like you...have been thinking about doing GH for anti-aging as well.

What has your experience been like? Is it worth the $$$$$$$ ???

CVGuy, to tell you the truth I'm not sure. I noticed a slight elevation in my mood but not much else. Thatt was after 2 or 3 months on low doses. Most guys I know say it takes 6 months for you to notice a real difference.

[Manuel_Hung]

Originally Posted by greyowl

CVGuy, to tell you the truth I'm not sure. I noticed a slight elevation in my mood but not much else. Thatt was after 2 or 3 months on low doses. Most guys I know say it takes 6 months for you to notice a real difference.

I took it for 6 months 2iu's....lost body fat....and it heald my shoulder...ther is no other explanation than the GH.....my shoulder has hurt for 12 years....no pain after the GH!