Hurray for boobies and AG Guys!!! Im here to answer youe guys Melanotan Questions

[A-modelApachepilot]

My good friends at Ag-guys.com have decided to start selling melanotan2 I am one of the most informed on the subject matter, so Ag gutys asked me to come over and answer any questions. So guys, please keep the thread bumped!!!

MT2 is a fantastic peptide!! It was created at the University of Arizona, and will produce pigment in your skin. Not only will it darken you, but it will darken someone that doesnt normally tan, even with an abundance of UV exposure. True Albinos are the only skin type that will not tan. I am very fair skinned(scotish) but look like an Italian, because of the increased pigment. MT is very safe, and it on the 3rd and final phase of the Australian version of our own FDA. It began its intial phase witht he USA FDA last Janurary. There have been no side effects, except for harder, more frequent erections, and a slight bit of nauciousness the first few days as your body is trying to get back to homeostasis.

The cycles are pretty damn easy. 2 Sub-q injections per day for 5-10 days. Then you only require maintenance dosing at 2 or so injections per week. Keep in mind Melanotan has been produced to keep people from getting skin cancer. Also, the nunber one priroity is for skin cancer survivors. The more pigment you have the least amoutn fo sun damaga you receive from exposure. If anybody has any ?'s hit me up. I beleive Ag-guys will have it stocked at the beginning of the month

[christophchicago]

I have a question regarding MT2 and libido. Seems one of the sides of MT2 is increased libido, frequent erections etc, apparantly caused by a compound in MT2 called PT 141, which is being further developed itself. Anyway, what if you wanted to try MT2 ( PT 141 being extremely hard to find, and quality inconsistent ) for libido puposes only ? Researching on a melanotan specific message board , I find that results can vary considerably as far as libido is concerned, some within hours of 1 mg sub q getting erections, others never feeling a thing. I realize everybodys different, and the peptides are very temp sensitive, but just looking for guideline. Im thinking 2 mg sub q, ( Im approx 90 kilos, so little over .02 per kg, Pub Med studies show .025 mg/kg research dose ) and see what happens, although a few folks do IM, wondering if that would result in a stronger " side " effect of erections, or just more chance of nausea.
Again, dont want it for tanning, but interested in libido effects.

[hackskii]

I have used MTII many times and I am very fair skinned and got very dark.
Aside from the more freckles, it works super good.

Erections are out of this world, I even gave some to my chick and she was more sensitive in her clit area.

2mg is far too much for a first time use. I did 1mg and that was too much first time use.
Start out half a mg to start for about 4-5 days then bump that up.

It is very heat sensitive and only lasts about 10 days after mixing, but that is what they say, I used it 2 weeks later and even 3 weeks and I didnt have any problems aside from having to shoot a bit more, probably due to degeneration.

12 hour erections are common and I had them all night long sleeping. Quite funny as I was sort of afraid this might not be good for little willie.

I thought this stuff was developed in Australia due to the highest per capita of skin cancer in the world.
Anyway, great product but the only bummer is the freckles.

It does work a bit better if you take a tan, sunlight makes it work better although I did get dark without sun. Once I added in some tanning salon, man it was awesome.

[ag-guys]

Originally Posted by A-modelApachepilot

My good friends at Ag-guys.com have decided to start selling melanotan2 I am one of the most informed on the subject matter, so Ag gutys asked me to come over and answer any questions. So guys, please keep the thread bumped!!!

MT2 is a fantastic peptide!! It was created at the University of Arizona, and will produce pigment in your skin. Not only will it darken you, but it will darken someone that doesnt normally tan, even with an abundance of UV exposure. True Albinos are the only skin type that will not tan. I am very fair skinned(scotish) but look like an Italian, because of the increased pigment. MT is very safe, and it on the 3rd and final phase of the Australian version of our own FDA. It began its intial phase witht he USA FDA last Janurary. There have been no side effects, except for harder, more frequent erections, and a slight bit of nauciousness the first few days as your body is trying to get back to homeostasis.

The cycles are pretty damn easy. 2 Sub-q injections per day for 5-10 days. Then you only require maintenance dosing at 2 or so injections per week. Keep in mind Melanotan has been produced to keep people from getting skin cancer. Also, the nunber one priroity is for skin cancer survivors. The more pigment you have the least amoutn fo sun damaga you receive from exposure. If anybody has any ?'s hit me up. I beleive Ag-guys will have it stocked at the beginning of the month

Thank you sir. I'm looking very forward to this.

AG
www.ag-guys.com

[A-modelApachepilot]

Christopchicago,

Yes, sir it will definetely help with Libido purposes. Personally I need a good amount to get wood from it(2mg a day). However, I am the lone wolf when it comes to erections, and MT2. Most people get wood easily.So Chris, for libido purposes I would look into purchasing Viagra, and cabergoline(dostinex).I have a feeling AG Guys will carry PT-141 in the near future(3-6 months) in the nasal variety

Hacksi,

Yes sir, it was delveoped in America at U of A, but Cliunvel(formerly Epitan) is the one producing it for pharmaceutical applications in Australia. Skin cancer center fo the world..


I always tell people to take as many small doses per day during the loading phase as theyc an stand. This will inhibit many of the mnoles and feckles from forming. Below is a very effective dosing chart


Find your weight on the chart below. 10mg is the average amount of one cycle. About 3 cycles are needed for the "loading phase." For someone of average weight (140-175), around 30mg is needed. This amount will vary from person to person. Heavier people, and skin type 1's need more than lighter people and those with higher skin types.

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10 mg / 12.00 injections = 0.833 mg --- 42 kg = 92 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 11.50 injections = 0.870 mg --- 43 kg = 96 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 11.00 injections = 0.909 mg --- 45 kg = 100 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 10.50 injections = 0.952 mg --- 48 kg = 105 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 10.00 injections = 1.000 mg --- 50 kg = 110 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 9.50 injections = 1.053 mg --- 53 kg = 116 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 9.00 injections = 1.111 mg --- 55 kg = 122 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 8.50 injections = 1.176 mg --- 59 kg = 130 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 8.00 injections = 1.250 mg --- 63 kg = 138 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 7.50 injections = 1.333 mg --- 67 kg = 147 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 7.00 injections = 1.429 mg --- 71 kg = 157 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 6.75 injections = 1.481 mg --- 74 kg = 163 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 6.50 injections = 1.538 mg --- 77 kg = 170 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 6.25 injections = 1.600 mg --- 80 kg = 176 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 6.00 injections = 1.667 mg --- 83 kg = 184 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 5.75 injections = 1.739 mg --- 87 kg = 192 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 5.50 injections = 1.818 mg --- 91 kg = 200 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 5.25 injections = 1.905 mg --- 95 kg = 210 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 5.00 injections = 2.000 mg --- 100 kg = 220 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 4.75 injections = 2.105 mg --- 105 kg = 232 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 4.50 injections = 2.222 mg --- 111 kg = 245 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 4.25 injections = 2.353 mg --- 118 kg = 259 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 4.00 injections = 2.500 mg --- 125 kg = 276 lbs @0.02mg/kg
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For example, someone weighing 184 lbs should be taking a dose of 1.66667mg daily. They will be able to get this amount out of the vial 6 times ( 10 / 1.66667 = 6)

Many people have began to emulate the slow-release method by giving themselves multiple injections daily. For example, that 184 lb. person would take 2 injections (1 morning / 1 night) of about .8333mg.

JR
AG-Guys nut hugger

[dennis]

Cost ? Is it legal in the states to have in possesion without script? How long can you safely run this?

[streetdaddy]

I bought some and it was from china. I know it is temp sensitive, and when i got it, it was warm. I t was in transit for 4 or 5 days. It was shipped with ice packs but they were melted. I was wondering if it still will be effective? I am taking 2- 0.5mg doses a day. I have not experienced any negative sides yet. I have been on it for 3 days. Do you think it is still good?

[srch4info]

WOW... this sounds like a very interesting product... I checked the links from the other thread and did some additional reading including on PT-141 and I am interested in learning more... in fact both my girl and I are interested in this product but unless I am missing something the cost effectiveness is a serious concern for me...

A few questions based on the chart provided and the previous posts:

Our weight range:
10 mg / 9.00 injections = 1.111 mg --- 55 kg = 122 lbs @0.02mg/kg
10 mg / 7.00 injections = 1.429 mg --- 71 kg = 157 lbs @0.02mg/kg

Hacskii stated :
"I did 1mg and that was too much first time use.
Start out half a mg to start for about 4-5 days then bump that up."

A-model stated :
"10mg is the average amount of one cycle. About 3 cycles are needed for the "loading phase."
"The cycles are pretty damn easy. 2 Sub-q injections per day for 5-10 days. Then you only require maintenance dosing at 2 or so injections per week."

I am a little confused regarding the difference of these statements and what they actually mean. Also $300 for the "loading phase" seems like a lot of money for a tan?

Now according to the "maintenance phase" info and the 10 day expiration that would mean that it would cost $200 per month and just about half of the product would expire before you could use it...

Am I missing something here? This seems like a really expensive product if my calculations are right... I have more questions but will hold off until I can see if I am off base here...

[greyowl]

Originally Posted by srch4info

This seems like a really expensive product if my calculations are right...

Your calculations are correct. It is a damned expensive way of showing off a tan. If you want to stay out of the sun why not just use a bronzer? I'm trying this neutragena spray stuff, I get a perfect tan and about $7's worth lasts me about 5 days.

[srch4info]

Originally Posted by greyowl

Your calculations are correct. It is a damned expensive way of showing off a tan. If you want to stay out of the sun why not just use a bronzer? I'm trying this neutragena spray stuff, I get a perfect tan and about $7's worth lasts me about 5 days.

I just read a recent review of the Neutragena product that said it was excellent... how long does the "tan" last when you use it?

[streetdaddy]

Guys,
Those bronzers are for the ladies. They all smell bad and even if your careful they stain unevenly. No hot chick would go for a stainer. I have been using for 3 days now. I will post some pics when it kicks in. By the way, it has dropped 100% in the last year. They say it will be avail. by script in 07 or 08.

[srch4info]

Originally Posted by streetdaddy

Guys,
Those bronzers are for the ladies. They all smell bad and even if your careful they stain unevenly. No hot chick would go for a stainer. I have been using for 3 days now. I will post some pics when it kicks in. By the way, it has dropped 100% in the last year. They say it will be avail. by script in 07 or 08.

Funny because that was referenced in the article as oe of the reasons the Nutragena product was so good but I have never tried a bronzer so can't say for sure.... but what I can say for sure is regardless of whether it dropped 100%, 200% or 1000% over the last year it is still very expensive at the current rates and required dosages... it will be interesting to see your pics though...

[streetdaddy]

You can see a before pic at www.livinginoklahoma.com i am the 4th one down on the right. I can tan but never get very dark, and it fades real quick. Actually the lighting in the pic makes me look more tan than in person .

[A-modelApachepilot]

Srch, I think you could easily get through with one bottle a month... It can stay up to 2 weeks after reconstitution. I am just going off what the standards are for dosing. Both will work, I would go conservative if you are worried about a lot of freckles, slowly build your way up.... Bronzers are definetely not for me. I sweat man, it is emabressing as shit when that stuff rubs off on your shirt, and forget about ever wearing white shirts again.

[A-modelApachepilot]

Streetdaddy-

It should be alright, but coudl have degraded a little..That is why I recommend goign with domestics wheneevr you can, stays cold