I figured it out. How to make steroids legal, safely.

[perseverance]

It is fairly simple. There should be a legal age to obtain them, 21. To get them you must go through an extensive course that discusses all aspects of steroid usage so that the people using them will be very knowledgable on the subject. Once you finish the course, you get a certain level license. For example Level 1 license would be able to purchase test and ancillaries, level 2 would be able to purchase all anabolic steroids and ancillaries, and level 3 would be able to purchase all steroids, ancillaries, and peptides (HGH, IGF, etc). To obtain the next license, you must have done at least a previous level cycle or two and complete another course. Now, on top of that, you can only purchase these through the same group that provides the course. When purchasing, you can only purchase what you have a license for and only enough for a single cycle (ancillaries and PCT included). So there would be a limit on the amount one could purchase in a time period. This would help keep them from being taken in an unhealthy way as well as help keep them in the hands of people of age and with licenses. I'm sure some will disagree with this, but it is a safe way of making them legal. I'm sure it could use some adjustments but the general idea is a good one i believe. What do y'all think?

[bigbench]

I like that method as it would def help to keep non adults and idiots away from them (as much as possible) but we all know that I government is not going to put any time much less money and effort into making something they want outlawed mainstream.
If EVERY damn person in this counrty who was on all these boards, and was well educated signed a petition, organized some how and actually took action, I wonder what congresses response to hundreds of thousands of people proving them wrong in every aspect of this situation.

[perseverance]

Originally Posted by bigbench

I like that method as it would def help to keep non adults and idiots away from them (as much as possible) but we all know that I government is not going to put any time much less money and effort into making something they want outlawed mainstream.
If EVERY damn person in this counrty who was on all these boards, and was well educated signed a petition, organized some how and actually took action, I wonder what congresses response to hundreds of thousands of people proving them wrong in every aspect of this situation.

This is true. But i don't think the government realizes how much they could make off of taxes if steroids and marijunia were legalized. It comes down to being able to organize such an over the top type of movement. And you wouldn't just be fighting the government, you'd be fighting the entire nation and the stigma that steroids hold. You'd have to get the media to brodcast the truth through knowledgable and respected members of "our" group. It'd be a tough task, but i definately feel like somethine has to be done soon.

[earlpo]

Originally Posted by perseverance

This is true. But i don't think the government realizes how much they could make off of taxes if steroids and marijunia were legalized. It comes down to being able to organize such an over the top type of movement. And you wouldn't just be fighting the government, you'd be fighting the entire nation and the stigma that steroids hold. You'd have to get the media to brodcast the truth through knowledgable and respected members of "our" group. It'd be a tough task, but i definately feel like somethine has to be done soon.

The thing is that it would be pretty damn near impossible to convince the mass media and just about every person in the country that has not the slightest clue to what steroids really are that they are safe if you know what you are doing. Congress is making so much of a deal about about it, with all of these cases, Clemens and Bonds, that it would be really hard to convince anyone that steroids arent what they are made out to be. With all of this recession talk, war on terror, and everything else that is going on it seems like Congress could do something a little more productive than waste time and hold people on trial for taking steroids.

[bigbench]

The BIGGEST thing about all the media dictating now is. "If pro athletes use them and our children look up to them,the we are telling our kids to do it" Well, if people werent going before CONGRESS because they took a few injections of a NON narcartic, then guess what, NO ONE WOULD F***ING KNOW!!! And what about parents who drink and smoke in front of their kids, are they saying that an athlete is a bigger influence over their children than they are?

[perseverance]

Originally Posted by bigbench

The BIGGEST thing about all the media dictating now is. "If pro athletes use them and our children look up to them,the we are telling our kids to do it" Well, if people werent going before CONGRESS because they took a few injections of a NON narcartic, then guess what, NO ONE WOULD F***ING KNOW!!! And what about parents who drink and smoke in front of their kids, are they saying that an athlete is a bigger influence over their children than they are?

there are so many valid arguments that could be made but the problem is that no one will listen and those that do won't believe it to be true. I can't tell you how many people i've talked to about steroids that, despite having no basis for their beliefs and no rebutles for my arguments, just shrugged me off as not knowing what i was talking about. That's the hardest part about doing steroids: having the entire country against you for doing something they don't have a clue about.

[bigbench]

I couldnt agree with your more brother. It pisses me off to no extreme and its something that we have to live with since we want to live in the land of the Free.. and ignorant!

[Reinheart]

Sounds like an incredible idea. Not only fakes would be limited and black market scums in general but also as someone said, kids would not have access to these drugs. I wish it had real work application though.

[perseverance]

Originally Posted by bigbench

I couldnt agree with your more brother. It pisses me off to no extreme and its something that we have to live with since we want to live in the land of the Free.. and ignorant!

the worst is when someone asks me if i do them, or just asked about them in general. Its kinda hard to deny 20 pounds of muscle gained in such short periods. Part of me wants to say yes and talk to them about them and the other part wants to say no and deny any knowledge on the subject cuz of the stigma they hold.

[perseverance]

Originally Posted by Reinheart

Sounds like an incredible idea. Not only fakes would be limited and black market scums in general but also as someone said, kids would not have access to these drugs. I wish it had real work application though.

i know, it would be the highest quality products, no variation between suppliers prices. although, competition between the companies that make them would help keep the price reasonable. It does have real world application. People feed off the want to take something to improve their bodies. Look at all the stupid weight loss commercials you see on tv everyday. This is effective and safe. The down side is, however, that many people would probably want to take them as a substitute for hard work and proper diet. And it would probably put a lot of the supplement industry out of business. Why spend 300 dollars on muscletech products, when you can get stuff you know works better for the same price? Bye bye aplodan or whatever that shit is called

[Reinheart]

Originally Posted by perseverance

i know, it would be the highest quality products, no variation between suppliers prices. although, competition between the companies that make them would help keep the price reasonable. It does have real world application. People feed off the want to take something to improve their bodies. Look at all the stupid weight loss commercials you see on tv everyday. This is effective and safe. The down side is, however, that many people would probably want to take them as a substitute for hard work and proper diet. And it would probably put a lot of the supplement industry out of business. Why spend 300 dollars on muscletech products, when you can get stuff you know works better for the same price? Bye bye aplodan or whatever that shit is called

Agreed! Weight loss commercials are all fucked up. I wish people could stop spend so much money buying that crap.

Lets say it has real world application? Do you really think that they would legalize tren or a-bombs? I'm not that sure though brother.

[bigbench]

Well, 99% if AAS were made for people with medical diseases, so there is real world applications for all of them. So, it would make sense to legalize them all since they are all classified the same. But hell, even if just test, deca, and var were legalized, would any of you complain? lol

[perseverance]

Originally Posted by Reinheart

Agreed! Weight loss commercials are all fucked up. I wish people could stop spend so much money buying that crap.

Lets say it has real world application? Do you really think that they would legalize tren or a-bombs? I'm not that sure though brother.

i'm not saying i think the government will do it. there's no way in hell that steroids will be legal in america within my life time. just saying it would be a way of doing it. If they were to do it, i don't think there would be anypoint on trying to pick and choose which to make legal. Just make them all legal. No one is going to be running A bombs at 100 mg for 20 weeks or tren for a year straight because the system is such that they wouldn't have the supply to do it . Plus, hopefully with the license system, people would know the dangers of using steriods in a stupid way like that and would know how to use them correctly. Also, the whole system in charge of steroids could have qualified doctors to use. That way people could get blood tests without having to worry about telling their doctor. That way, if someone's liver values were out of whack cuz of a bombs they would know to drop them.

[perseverance]

Originally Posted by bigbench

But hell, even if just test, deca, and var were legalized, would any of you complain? lol

hell no! i can find some fina pellets somewhere

[dennis]

Originally Posted by bigbench

Well, 99% if AAS were made for people with medical diseases, so there is real world applications for all of them. So, it would make sense to legalize them all since they are all classified the same. But hell, even if just test, deca, and var were legalized, would any of you complain? lol

March 31 I have my apoinment set..we will see just what the docs will prescribe to a guy like me