I keep hearing dbol alone no good ???

[getinyuge]

You know I have been hearing this alot these days and I am wondering back in the 60s 70s Dbol was breakfast of champs. Many body builders were using 15 to 30 mg ED and doing GREAT making GREAT gains. Short 4 week stints of DBol alone with same time off then back again. Shit arnold was loving and making huge gains on primo tabs and dbol. Why the neg feedback on guys who want to run a short 4 weeker on dbol? or guys who want to run like anabol alone cycle on cycle off.

[mesomember]

Originally Posted by getinyuge

You know I have been hearing this alot these days and I am wondering back in the 60s 70s Dbol was breakfast of champs. Many body builders were using 15 to 30 mg ED and doing GREAT making GREAT gains. Short 4 week stints of DBol alone with same time off then back again. Shit arnold was loving and making huge gains on primo tabs and dbol. Why the neg feedback on guys who want to run a short 4 weeker on dbol? or guys who want to run like anabol alone cycle on cycle off.

Most the guys who say stay away have never tried it only read it and regurgitate what they have read. I have tried it and gained 20lbs and kept 15 on a dbol only cycle. I think I ran 50 mg a day for 8 weeks. Peple will say thats too long but fuck em. Take Tykers dtox and milk thistle. Have nolva on hand. I have pretty good gentics not greatbut all you can do is try..its a cheap, simple and effective way to put on some size.

[getinyuge]

agree 100% glad 2 hear it bro finally...lol..

[Grizzly]

Pretty much regurgitation, in most cases. IIRC, the Bulgarians were using low dose dbol only for months on end to rule the Olympics. Or so I had read from what I deemed to be a reputable source. It could be off, but I can see where a dbol only cycle, especially for strength, would produce good results.

[Deacon]

yes a d-bol alone cycle will produce results - and in many cases great results - but when you come off those gains will go by by in a hurry - however you will grow with d-bol alone - and small doses often work well - I mean 15- 20 mgs per day

[MANWHORE]

I'm sure D-bol at that dose is good for a beginner but when i hear of old school Pros doing those doses,it just makes me wonder and kind of do this .. Arnold had great genetics of course but it's very hard to believe he would only take 30mg of dbol a day .. especially when he had the More Is Better attitude about training. Why would he only take 30mg when thinking he could get better results from 60mg? I don't believe anything Pros say about their cycles. Not one damn thing,because they're all lying ...

[getinyuge]

On the old ciba bottles of dianabol it stated large doses did nothing more than smaller effective doses results are the same and that was documented not everything you swallow has to be 100 times more than whats needed to work better. Maybe he did do 100 a day but who cares he was only doing primo tabs and dbol tabs genetics or not I am 100% sure it helped BIG TIME or why the hell would he even bother? I dont think its a matter of over doing it I think its a matter of it works at 30 to 40 mgs a day no matter what for some not everyone. I also think its a matter of longer cycles of it not 4 weeks cycles but 8 weeks on the off then on then off it was done like that over and over again and you know what it worked well for many. These days its like everything else we are all want to be chemists and we feel the need to go to deep and go over board and then lack other things. I see guys in the gym who lift no barbells no dumbells no basic movements no heavy weight. They just consume every chem out there in HUGE doses eat shit fast food and lack everything else and guess what they grow real big so I really think its a personal thing. Some things work for some and some things work for others end of story its not as complicated as many would like you think it is...some say a bombs alone NO GOOD I have a friend did 3 weeks 100 mgs a day went up to a huge weight lost a bunch but kept a bunch looked great not even post therapy so go friggin figure....

[Bigkarch]

yes you can gain from dbol only..you can gain from drol only..you can gain from var only..you can gain from pretty much any aas only..but why do you want to and what is the mentallity behind that choice..I have done oral only cycles and was not too impressed (with the big picture)...especially during recovery and hormonal fluctation.....

I hear this a lot from newbies not wanting to take shots or want the easy way out by popping pills and growing like a weed....you would get better gains, better pct, maybe even less sides (except var) if you use a test only cycle...and your libido wont drop...JMHO bro..

[Deacon]

Originally Posted by legal eagle

yes you can gain from dbol only..you can gain from drol only..you can gain from var only..you can gain from pretty much any aas only..but why do you want to and what is the mentallity behind that choice..I have done oral only cycles and was not too impressed (with the big picture)...especially during recovery and hormonal fluctation.....

I hear this a lot from newbies not wanting to take shots or want the easy way out by popping pills and growing like a weed....you would get better gains, better pct, maybe even less sides (except var) if you use a test only cycle...and your libido wont drop...JMHO bro..

this really hits the point well - the idea of the overall big picture when it comes to cycling - running d-bol alone is pretty much a waste when one considers the bigger picture

[getinyuge]

I was just curious I run test as a base on all cycles I like to inject to be honest...lol... but I was just thinking about it and some people who run orals alone because thtas all they ahave.

[Deacon]

once again consider the bigger picture - why not wait and get some more stuff and run a proper cycle instead of fucking around?

[Arnold73]

Great thread!
Ive always been interested in what the guys in Arnold, Franco and Ferrigno's era did to look the way they did. They had that look of pure muscle that just looked the best to me. I have never taken dianabol , I really dont know why, but always wondered if it would work like it did for those guys.
I guess since ive read testosterone covers all the bases the most, and was safer (as far as liver issues), it was the best choice to put something in the body that mimics exactly the same natural hormone we produce.

Funny thing to me is why is testosterone, deca, anadrol, anavar, and most of the other steroids out there used in medicine (as far as having a medical use in this country, wasting, Hrt etc. ) , but dianabol is not on the pharmacutical market. I mean why is anadrol when its a higher dosed steroid and im assuming it must be taken in higher doses than dianbol to have a postive working effect. Am I missing something or does Anadrol work totally different in the body than dianabol, how would you guys compare the difference here that have used both?
I have read that anadrol makes you feel ill and bonds badly to the receptors, and dbal at a low dose works good (for an average guy not normally taking steroids most of the year) and makes you feel well. If that is the case im baffled why they wouldnt put it on the market as almost all the other ones are available from legal U.S. based pharmaceutical companies. Basically meaning i cant go the doctor and say i would like to use dianabol at 25mg for muscle wasting, instead of anadrol at 100mg. or anavar at whatever dose you would prescribe for the same problem. It should be a choice available by now I would think.

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by Arnold73

Great thread!
Ive always been interested in what the guys in Arnold, Franco and Ferrigno's era did to look the way they did. They had that look of pure muscle that just looked the best to me. I have never taken dianabol , I really dont know why, but always wondered if it would work like it did for those guys.
I guess since ive read testosterone covers all the bases the most, and was safer (as far as liver issues), it was the best choice to put something in the body that mimics exactly the same natural hormone we produce.

Funny thing to me is why is testosterone, deca, anadrol, anavar, and most of the other steroids out there used in medicine (as far as having a medical use in this country, wasting, Hrt etc. ) , but dianabol is not on the pharmacutical market. I mean why is anadrol when its a higher dosed steroid and im assuming it must be taken in higher doses than dianbol to have a postive working effect. Am I missing something or does Anadrol work totally different in the body than dianabol, how would you guys compare the difference here that have used both?
I have read that anadrol makes you feel ill and bonds badly to the receptors, and dbal at a low dose works good (for an average guy not normally taking steroids most of the year) and makes you feel well. If that is the case im baffled why they wouldnt put it on the market as almost all the other ones are available from legal U.S. based pharmaceutical companies. Basically meaning i cant go the doctor and say i would like to use dianabol at 25mg for muscle wasting, instead of anadrol at 100mg. or anavar at whatever dose you would prescribe for the same problem. It should be a choice available by now I would think.

Anadrol was used to increase RBCs before EPO took its place and they have other drugs to help with muscle wasting that they don't need Dbol.

[Bigkarch]

also dont forget..they had awesome genetics that we dont have...and dont take their training, diet and dedication and years of it for granted..sure aas helped but that was not the main ingrediant

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by legal eagle

also dont forget..they had awesome genetics that we dont have...and dont take their training, diet and dedication and years of it for granted..sure aas helped but that was not the main ingrediant

Yes i believe Arnold,for one,put alot more effort toward training than any of the Pros of today.