I know low-carb diets are controversial, but.....

[andysutils]

Originally Posted by Porthos

PSMF

I cut down to under 30 per day... for 6 weeks at a time

30 a day? how do you find the physical strengh to even walk bro on 30 carbs a day? :d

[Reinheart]

I go over 400 grams of healthy carbs year round and still manage to lose weight during summer. Amazing, isn't it? Anyways, i'm going to cut down a few carbs and up my monosaturated fat intake and see how it goes. Most carbs will be consumed in the morning, pre and post-workout and then some veggie carbs at supper.

[LifeSize]

Originally Posted by andysutils

30 a day? how do you find the physical strengh to even walk bro on 30 carbs a day? :d

Your body eventually uses protein as it's main energy source. Your goal is to remain nitrogen positive so you're body is using what you put in it for energy instead of your muscles and their glycogen. You get used to the feeling more or less...

PSMF suggest using ECA for both energy and appetite suppression.. the crazy shit about PSMF is the low calorie status :P

[BubbaEarl]

Originally Posted by jasonlv

Do you notice that you feel sluggish throughout your day due to the lack of carbs? Do you drink a lot of coffee or energy drinks?

I actually have more energy and stamina. The first week I felt sluggish, but after that my energy came from ketones. My body switched to fat as its energy source.

[BubbaEarl]

Originally Posted by MrBman

its the first week bro ... unfortunately most people give up by then ... after a week or so your body will become accustomed to the glucose levels you provide it with ... they key is not to avoid the carbs but change the source you get them from - most people dont buy into it, but Fuck hydroxycut ... and thermo lean and all that bullshit - the most powerful fat burners are vegetables ... getting your carbs from vegetables will help avoid that sluggish feeling man ....

I eat tons of green vegges; more than when I was not limiting carbs. For example, if I go to Outback, instead of getting a potato, I get brocholi. I eat tons of salad.

[andysutils]

Originally Posted by LifeSize

Your body eventually uses protein as it's main energy source. Your goal is to remain nitrogen positive so you're body is using what you put in it for energy instead of your muscles and their glycogen. You get used to the feeling more or less...

PSMF suggest using ECA for both energy and appetite suppression.. the crazy shit about PSMF is the low calorie status :P

so would this mean i can get away with eating less than 200 carbs a day whilst bulking?

what would the result differences be?

[dennis]

Originally Posted by andysutils

so would this mean i can get away with eating less than 200 carbs a day whilst bulking?

what would the result differences be?

andy..save the low carb diet for cutting.When you are bulking eat like a pig.

[BubbaEarl]

Originally Posted by dennis

Bubba..I am not doubting you at all but please tell us how you eat 50 grams of carbs a day total ??? I cut last october and got down to 75 grams carbs per day and that was brutal !

Dennis - I do not actually count my carbs. I try not to eat any and by doing that I am sure I rarely exceed 50. I get the carbs I do eat from things like peanut butter that I eat by the spoonful. I eat tons of green vegges and berries and those things have carbs, but not many. I like to eat berries and cottage cheese. There are a few carbs in that. I eat nuts and pork-skins. I never eat bread or sweets. I add a little BBQ some times to things I grill or other sauces, but not much. My doctor a couple of years ago told me I was pre-diabetic and I shut the carbs down and all my blood sugar issues went away. The key for me was not to try to avoid carbs and fats. By allowing myself to have fats (including saturated, but not trans-fats), I can stick to the diet. I consume red-meat without fear. My cholesterol has improved. After a few weeks my body switched to using fat as it primary energy source and I have never looked back. I have more energy and stamina. Nutrition is like Religion and Politics. People have strong opinions and there is a lot of conflicting data. I am not trying to convert anyone, I just wanted to know if there was anyone else out there that agreed with me. My personal experience has convinced me that low-carb is a healthy way to live. I use to get heartburn and jock-itch all the time. I never get either of those things anymore. I feel like that is my body telling me I am doing something right. I never get sick. M whole house can be sick and I won't get it.. I believe in it.

[LifeSize]

Originally Posted by andysutils

so would this mean i can get away with eating less than 200 carbs a day whilst bulking?

what would the result differences be?

Leaner but slower gains due to the stable blood sugar levels and your body switching to fat and protein for energy. The best way for me though has been cycling my carbs. So 150 a day Mon-Fri, and 300-500 on Sat, 200-300 on Sun. I use my carbs pre work out (apple or orange 20-30g) and post work out (waxy maize 80g), the rest is greens with a couple of meals, whatever else sneaks in due to what im eating. I make sure to have a really depleting workout on Fridays..

[role model]

Originally Posted by andysutils

30 a day? how do you find the physical strengh to even walk bro on 30 carbs a day? :d

Do you know that if your body doesn't get carbs for energy it then burns fat. That conversion from carb burning to fat burning takes about 3 days. So unless your about 3% BF or less you will have energy.