i relay entirely on you (tren and testo)

[gouranga]

I changed my mind about my cycle.
I think that trenbolone enanthate is better for my results.
This is the cycle that i think to do, 5 wk total:
375 mg/we of testo cypionate
375 mg/we of testo enanthate
400 mg/we of trenbolone enanthate

But i also can take 800 mg/we of trenbolone enanthate without testo.

It's a good idea stack tren with slow-released esterified testo ?
There are other stacks i can do that's better then mine ?
(whatever, i take 10-20 mg of nolvadex and after all 100 mg of clomid for 3 weeks)
What I've to do ?
I'm 239 lbs at 10% of bodyfat for 173 cm.
Thank you good guys for pay me attention!!

[TheBeat]

I do not understand the Cypionate & Enanthate! But are so close in ester length that they are interchangable. Again NOLVADEX SHOULD NOT BE USED WITH PROGESTERONIC AAS!

It's a good idea stack tren with slow-released esterified testo ?

Yeah, I like to match ester lengths

There are other stacks i can do that's better then mine ?

As far as AAS combos - sure, but it's all subjective and relative to the individual.

(whatever, i take 10-20 mg of nolvadex and after all 100 mg of clomid for 3 weeks)
What I've to do ?

I don't know what you are asking, but you should run Letro during and post cycle for prevention and recovery. If you are set on the standards then Clomid is better for THIS cycle.

[Gman2004]

Originally Posted by TheBeat

I do not understand the Cypionate & Enanthate! But are so close in ester length that they are interchangable..

I take cypionate and enanthate together. the cypionate just doesn't raise my sex drive like the longer ester.

[gouranga]

Yes i know that nolvadex isn't good but i really don't know what to take.
I taked just for a case in the past cypionate and enanthate together and i feel a good effect, i don't know why 'cause the half life is similar (10.5 days for one and 12 for the other).
I need to ask you if 400 mg of tren are too low with 750 mg of testo for we and what to take for aromatasin'.
Thank you.

[jsupstarz]

NOLVADEX is Bad??????
And why might you say that, hope not cuz of the IGF crap

[swelty]

Originally Posted by gouranga

Yes i know that nolvadex isn't good but i really don't know what to take.
I taked just for a case in the past cypionate and enanthate together and i feel a good effect, i don't know why 'cause the half life is similar (10.5 days for one and 12 for the other).
I need to ask you if 400 mg of tren are too low with 750 mg of testo for we and what to take for aromatasin'.
Thank you.

400 mgs is the max i would go

[turboed]

i would do either or as far as the test goes,i don't see a need for both.

[HDH]

Originally Posted by Gman2004

I take cypionate and enanthate together. the cypionate just doesn't raise my sex drive like the longer ester.

Actually, cyp is slightly longer than enan but not enough to make a difference

HDH

[HDH]

Originally Posted by gouranga

I changed my mind about my cycle.
I think that trenbolone enanthate is better for my results.
This is the cycle that i think to do, 5 wk total:
375 mg/we of testo cypionate
375 mg/we of testo enanthate
400 mg/we of trenbolone enanthate

But i also can take 800 mg/we of trenbolone enanthate without testo.

It's a good idea stack tren with slow-released esterified testo ?
There are other stacks i can do that's better then mine ?
(whatever, i take 10-20 mg of nolvadex and after all 100 mg of clomid for 3 weeks)
What I've to do ?
I'm 239 lbs at 10% of bodyfat for 173 cm.
Thank you good guys for pay me attention!!

Do you have a test e/c mix? I am running one right now, T-400 (test e 200mg and test c 200mg). It's awesome gear and at $25 a vial you just can't beat the price unless you are homebrewing. I also agree with the Letro during your cycle. Progesterone can be a bitch!

HDH

[Gman2004]

Originally Posted by HDH

Actually, cyp is slightly longer than enan but not enough to make a difference

HDH

I was on 750mg of Test E and I couldn't get it enough. Sex was al I thought about. I then switched to 700mg of Test prop and the drive was gone. I added 450mg of test cypionate to the prop and all is good again.

[gouranga]

In the end i decided to stack for 5 weeks 1 gr/we of testo and 400 mg/we of tren enanth.
I think that i will gain something
My precedent was of 500 mg/we of sustanon and 600 mg/we of boldenone and i don't earn what i expected.

[HDH]

Originally Posted by gouranga

In the end i decided to stack for 5 weeks 1 gr/we of testo and 400 mg/we of tren enanth.
I think that i will gain something
My precedent was of 500 mg/we of sustanon and 600 mg/we of boldenone and i don't earn what i expected.

I didn't realize that you were only doing a 5 week cycle. Even with the T Prop /T Enan mix, IMO, 5 weeks is too short. I'm not saying that a short cycle isn't good but a short cycle usually consists of 6 to 8 weeks with short esters. You might consider Test P and Tren A for a short cycle. It will be weeks before you start to notice good gains even with the prop mix. If I remember correctly, testo is 200mg enan and 50mg prop. Not much prop. If this is all you have I would suggest going a few more weeks or even add an oral kick start to get things going quicker.

HDH

[gouranga]

Originally Posted by HDH

I didn't realize that you were only doing a 5 week cycle. Even with the T Prop /T Enan mix, IMO, 5 weeks is too short. I'm not saying that a short cycle isn't good but a short cycle usually consists of 6 to 8 weeks with short esters. You might consider Test P and Tren A for a short cycle. It will be weeks before you start to notice good gains even with the prop mix. If I remember correctly, testo is 200mg enan and 50mg prop. Not much prop. If this is all you have I would suggest going a few more weeks or even add an oral kick start to get things going quicker.

HDH

You're in reason.
I could do something like this:
For the firsts 3 weeks:
500 mg of test E/C and 250 mg of sustanon for a week (for the kickback)
From the 3 to 8 weeks:
500 mg of test E/C with 400 mg of tren E

sounds it good?

[HDH]

Originally Posted by gouranga

You're in reason.
I could do something like this:
For the firsts 3 weeks:
500 mg of test E/C and 250 mg of sustanon for a week (for the kickback)
From the 3 to 8 weeks:
500 mg of test E/C with 400 mg of tren E

sounds it good?

If you frontload with the test instead of kickstarting with an oral it would be better to double your dose for the first 2 weeks (1000mg a week of test). It would also be ok to run the tren from week one.

HDH