Igf-1

[enduranceAthlete]

I've done quite a bit of research on IGF-1 lately. There was a performance-drug bust recently in Spain where 59 professional cyclists were implicated, some of the top names in the sport.

Found was what you'd normally expect ref. pro cyclists: EPO, blood-swapping kits, hGH, test and -- surprisingly to me -- quite a bit of IGF-1.

I've looked around and understand its basic chemical components and effects, but nothing on dosages, cycle time, and pct. Also, I didn't find much on side effects.

My purposes is to increase power output while staying lightweight. I'm 6-2, 166lbs., very low BF, 41y. My strength-to-weight ratio right now is good. I can get over mountains of 5k or less with the first group of climbers and still hit 40mph at times in the flats on smooth roads between climbs.

Does anyone have experience with this chemical?

[unt0ld]

No need for PCT with IGF-1.

[hackskii]

I am on IGF-1 right now @ 50-60mcg a day.
It will make you rather vascular and the pumps are nice.
I am stacking it with test right now and I rather like the combo.

I dont think you will like the gains all by itself, sure, I was dieting trying to lose and found it harder to lose weight.
I think I was gaining some muscle though.

I like it though.
Going for 50 day cycle, and 8 weeks on the test.

[PUMPED101]

i went through a few bottles of IGF did not do much for me.....
ran between 40-80 mcgs....5 weeks

most people run between 40-80 mcgs ...some go as high as 100-120 mcgs...most like it...some seem to be non-responders...or maybe..i just need a higher dose...

watch out for igf that is really just hcg...

[enduranceAthlete]

Originally Posted by hackskii

I am on IGF-1 right now @ 50-60mcg a day.
It will make you rather vascular and the pumps are nice.
I am stacking it with test right now and I rather like the combo.

I dont think you will like the gains all by itself, sure, I was dieting trying to lose and found it harder to lose weight.
I think I was gaining some muscle though.

I like it though.
Going for 50 day cycle, and 8 weeks on the test.

Did you discover any negative sides?

[ag-guys]

Originally Posted by enduranceAthlete

Did you discover any negative sides?

The only big negative is hypoglycemia, you need to eat enough carbs while using IGF-1.

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[enduranceAthlete]

This from einstein1905, a senior member on this site and, seemingly, a pretty bright dude:

"IGF-1 causes the maturation of satellite cells (muscular stem cells) into mature myocytes. As more myocytes have matured and become part of muscle fibers, you get the benefits of more potential size/strength but also with new mature cells, comes more androgen receptors on that cell, so the effects of AAS can be better realized. IGF-1 also causes increased expression (protein synthesis) of muscular contractile fibers), which contributes to strength increases."

So, it seems like a four-week cycle of IGF-1 run prior to a 10-week cycle of test with another four week cycle of IGF-1 in the middle and again ptc would work best.

[IGFKing]

one reason IGF-1 LR3 are desired are for the pumps and vascularity, which usually last all day. Users report a steady decrease in bodyfat percentage levels and an increase in muscle tissue.

the most effective results are obtained with a 6 weeks on and 4 weeks off cycle.

[hackskii]

Originally Posted by enduranceAthlete

Did you discover any negative sides?

No, none.
HGH made me very hungry, IGF-1 didnt do that.
Vascularity was awesome.
Pumps are awesome too.

Other than that, nothing really.

Originally Posted by enduranceAthlete

This from einstein1905, a senior member on this site and, seemingly, a pretty bright dude:

"IGF-1 causes the maturation of satellite cells (muscular stem cells) into mature myocytes. As more myocytes have matured and become part of muscle fibers, you get the benefits of more potential size/strength but also with new mature cells, comes more androgen receptors on that cell, so the effects of AAS can be better realized. IGF-1 also causes increased expression (protein synthesis) of muscular contractile fibers), which contributes to strength increases."

So, it seems like a four-week cycle of IGF-1 run prior to a 10-week cycle of test with another four week cycle of IGF-1 in the middle and again ptc would work best.

Or just plain hyperplasia and positive nitrogen balance as said above.


I like HGH and I also like IGF-1, both have their place.
Right now I can buy IGF-1 for cheaper than HGH.
I notice IGF-1 is a bit faster working.........

[MANWHORE]

I was thinking of trying HGH or IGF ling R but i wasn't sure i wanted to spend the money .. $50 for mg IGF but i can get 7 more grams or Var which is 99.2% pure this month with that being even stronger than BTGs was ( which was only USP 26 .. 96% pure the least) .. Like HGH, IGF is very unstable so non responders may not really be non responders at all .. Depends how many hands it went through to get to you and most importantly, how they stored it .. That being said, I tried IGF long R about 3yrs ago and that day i shot my 1st dose, i was horny as a mother .. I have read many years ago about it being able to bring back natural test no matter how long on cycle and how large a dose AAS was being used and from the way i felt, i believe it .. whether it mimicking LH or stimulating production of LH or whatever but i do believe it is a very good drug being used for PCT ... 100mcg/day is enough for most from research board did years ago .. Chemical Muscle i believe it was but they were the ones saying it shouldn't take much if IGF is good .. When i bought my 1mg of it years ago i payed something like $260 and i liked it .. It was stored in BA until i needed to use then i mixed with B Static water enough to cut BA damage or pain to my muscle injected ... I think i am going to do it .. Animal was recommending holding in BA for the longest time but many people weren't agreeing saying it would lose potency, until now. Most in the know would tell you that is the best way to keep it letting you able to keep it in your sock drawer and not even freezer ... I would still at least keep in fridge . Yeah i'm, getting 1mg and i'll keep posting results for the whole 10 days . If i like it i will get more because i need to give my natural test a break ,,, Bloodwork is fine but i am getting bored of AAS and just want to try other things ... BTW we should post more nudie girl pics in the section because i love pussy

[hackskii]

Hey bro, first of all IGF-1 LR3 is more stable than GH
The stuff I am using is mixed with Acetic Acid and is stable for up to a year in the fridge, there is some decent shelf life at room temp but I have to go to another board for the info. I will post apon request.
Bac water is the wrong PH to use to mix that stuff.

IGF-1 does not raise LH, does not bring back test levels, 100mcg is too much and the lower dose of 50mcg is fine during a cycle or during PCT.
One reason I like the idea of using IGF-1 during PCT as nolvadex will lower IGF-1, so it does make sense to take IGF-1 during PCT, for maintaining gains.
I don’t think it will do much of anything though for aiding in recovery but I do know Dr. Scally suggests the use of HGH to aid in recovery but he said he could not prove it but felt PCT was more successful with the use of HGH.

I myself just bought 2mg to run during a cycle, I don’t think you will be happy with just 1mg TBH.
IGF-1 has a pretty long half life I think like 35 hours or even a bit more. I love the vascularity it brings out, man the veins are sick looking.

[ampguy99]

you all are talking about roids and pumps he is talking about riding a bike.....I think the last thing you want in your legs is pumps when you are trying to pedal a bike for hours on end....I remember several years ago trying to run the 2 miles to the gym like I used to while on drol and the pumps were so bad I couldn't even walk home......

[hackskii]

Pumps from IGF are incredable, pumps from roids are incredable too.

The thread is about IGF and that is what I am talking about.

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by hackskii

Hey bro, first of all IGF-1 LR3 is more stable than GH
The stuff I am using is mixed with Acetic Acid and is stable for up to a year in the fridge, there is some decent shelf life at room temp but I have to go to another board for the info. I will post apon request.
Bac water is the wrong PH to use to mix that stuff.

IGF-1 does not raise LH, does not bring back test levels, 100mcg is too much and the lower dose of 50mcg is fine during a cycle or during PCT.
One reason I like the idea of using IGF-1 during PCT as nolvadex will lower IGF-1, so it does make sense to take IGF-1 during PCT, for maintaining gains.
I don’t think it will do much of anything though for aiding in recovery but I do know Dr. Scally suggests the use of HGH to aid in recovery but he said he could not prove it but felt PCT was more successful with the use of HGH.

I myself just bought 2mg to run during a cycle, I don’t think you will be happy with just 1mg TBH.

I thought BS water was the thing to dilute IGF in BA before injecting .. that's how i did it anyway .. I can easily find out from the most informative IGF board on the planet :-) .. Which is what i will be doing if i do decide to use it .. You are right asbout the MCG use because i know alot of guys found lower doses to work great.. pretty much why i made the comment about it being unstable .. guys were storing it wrong or buying stuff that was not stored correctly and even at hundreds of MCG day they weren't seeing good results .. I think OK results ... I can see where HGH being more unstable though .. I will check the board and talk more about this because know you got me wanting to .. Might really want to try it now but not sure if it is good for what i am looking for at this moment .. So what did you get out of it and how many cyc.... Basically, what did you find to be the best dose schedule and what did you stack with? I will be using Var when it comes in and most likely stay with some Bold Undec .. later

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by PUMPED101

i went through a few bottles of IGF did not do much for me.....
ran between 40-80 mcgs....5 weeks

most people run between 40-80 mcgs ...some go as high as 100-120 mcgs...most like it...some seem to be non-responders...or maybe..i just need a higher dose...

watch out for igf that is really just hcg...

I'm pretty sure that was from the old ways of storing IGF and it losiung potency which is why i meantioned it being as unstable as HGH .. OK makes me want to research so i will go to the other board and get some more info .. I am now wanting to try it again so i should do this for myself anyway .