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Old 05-23-2004, 10:33 PM
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I think it is. If it wasn't you would not care who knew. It is cheating, if 2 guys of the same strength lift and then one juices and the other doesn't there is know way the other guy could compete. I don't think there is anything wrong with it unless it is used in sports. I could care less who uses it as long as they are SAFE... I just hate the fact that some people can say it like a "SPOT" that's just funny as hell. Yes you still have to work hard but still it is cheating. We all know it!!! I hate the fact there are so many young people on this site using them and they don't know JACK about it. READ before you use them, I don't care if somone has read and knows the side effect and all there is to know and then does it but these guys who are 18,19 and even 20 are to young and the other guys on the site and forum should not support these young guys!!! When you can't grow from food and lifting hard then I don't have any problems with using them But I dout anyone who is 18-20 has that problem your just not working hard enough and your just taking the easy way out. what do you guys think?



Don't come on here and bash me cause i think you should be safe and you should read and you should work hard before using roids. Don't hate me cause I think it is cheating, you know as do I as do the friends I have who juice that it is cheating.

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I 1st used them when i was 18. I've only used 3 cycles since,but still started at 18. It's your life,i'm not here to judge anyone or play daddy to anyone,except my own son. they are drugs and can be abused just like all other drugs. I agree with AAS use but not abuse. and as far as cheating... Cheating in what? If it's for a natural comp and your using then yes but cheating in life or not being natural like the other guy in the gym who has to work at it harder than you? Shit,that's his own choice. Would you say women who get breast implants are cheating at picking up men? Life is short,if cheating is going to help me reach my goals faster,as long as i'm not hurting anyone else,then i will cheat
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I'm not here to be anybodys dad. I just want people to be SAFE. I also want them to read and learn about it first. I see so many people asking dumb questions, well if you read you would know. I know that ton's of you guys don't even have a ligit diet. It's not MAGIC, you need to EAT,REST,LIFT HARD, it not like you just take them and *BAM* you become HUGE. You have to work your freaken ass off. You have to eat you ass off. Kid shooting p and don't even asperate. "WHY DOES IT HURT" and even worse they don't keep stuff on hand like nova for gyno. It just makes me sick that young guys just want to be huge and they think roids is the only way. Your 18 you have time to grow..........
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LOL Exosist your right it not unless you get caught.
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I know what you mean that some people I know think it is some magic pill and they can become huge. I have people ask what kind they should take and dose I laugh at them because they are really messing themselves up and don't even know it. I think people need to do their research and study before taking anything. I read these boards for over a year before I even decided to start using.
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It is not cheating if God tells you to use them. Am I right Neodavid?
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It's cheating if you lie about it, like by entering a natural contest.

But that's why they have natural contests, because everyone else is on juice.

Probably a lot of guys lie to pump up their image, make it look to others like they are just smarter, better lifters to get so big.

Lying is lying, no matter what the subject. I don't think it's cheating unless you pretend you don't use.

But you have to keep it quiet. Guys at the gym get really bent if you are open about it. They don't want others to find out about THEM, which to me was funny, but they have a point in that it's illegal and could put them on parole or in jail.

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I think it is. If it wasn't you would not care who knew. It is cheating, if 2 guys of the same strength lift and then one juices and the other doesn't there is know way the other guy could compete. I don't think there is anything wrong with it unless it is used in sports. I could care less who uses it as long as they are SAFE... I just hate the fact that some people can say it like a "SPOT" that's just funny as hell. Yes you still have to work hard but still it is cheating. We all know it!!! I hate the fact there are so many young people on this site using them and they don't know JACK about it. READ before you use them, I don't care if somone has read and knows the side effect and all there is to know and then does it but these guys who are 18,19 and even 20 are to young and the other guys on the site and forum should not support these young guys!!! When you can't grow from food and lifting hard then I don't have any problems with using them But I dout anyone who is 18-20 has that problem your just not working hard enough and your just taking the easy way out. what do you guys think?



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I'm not here to be anybodys dad. I just want people to be SAFE. I also want them to read and learn about it first. I see so many people asking dumb questions, well if you read you would know. I know that ton's of you guys don't even have a ligit diet. It's not MAGIC, you need to EAT,REST,LIFT HARD, it not like you just take them and *BAM* you become HUGE. You have to work your freaken ass off. You have to eat you ass off. Kid shooting p and don't even asperate. "WHY DOES IT HURT" and even worse they don't keep stuff on hand like nova for gyno. It just makes me sick that young guys just want to be huge and they think roids is the only way. Your 18 you have time to grow..........
Your right,people should read and learn as much as possible before putting any drug into their bodies,but your wrong about having to eat right and train hard to grow while using gear. Alot of highschool kids around here are very big from using AAS and they don't know that much about diet and training,although both aren't to hard to understand. When you get above or close to your natural limits that's when diet is most important
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Tongue in cheek, of course not...

But I'd never enter a contest or lie about it. That's cheating...


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MANWHORE your telling me DIET isn't important? HAHAHA well they ain't gaining crap besides water. Yes they gain 12 lbs or so but i bet half is water now you tell me is 6lbs worth all the work? all the pain? all the shots? UMMM HELL NOOOOOO not to mention the effects it put on your body in the future. Sorry bro if your not Dieting then your not gaining 20 or 25 lbs like the guys in this forum who are doing it right!!!
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