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Old 12-03-2004, 07:21 PM
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Guys, I'm on test+eq+anadrol and my joints are killing me.
Is this really supposed to happen?
I thought the water from the abombs were gonna make my joints smoother, but they are stiff and painful.

Maybe I'm lifting too heavy and my joints aren't keeping up with the strength gains?

When I'm benching my elbows make cracking noises, and when I do curls, I can't go all the way up because of the pain.

My forearm is also very sore. Especially when I let go of gripping the bars, it feels like 100 needles are going through the muscle.

Anyone ever experience this? Any advice?
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Old 12-03-2004, 08:06 PM
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Either switch from EQ to Deca or add in 3-5iu's of HGH ED. Other than that maybe try some high doses of glucosamine and chondroitin.


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Guys, I'm on test+eq+anadrol and my joints are killing me.
Is this really supposed to happen?
I thought the water from the abombs were gonna make my joints smoother, but they are stiff and painful.

Maybe I'm lifting too heavy and my joints aren't keeping up with the strength gains?

When I'm benching my elbows make cracking noises, and when I do curls, I can't go all the way up because of the pain.

My forearm is also very sore. Especially when I let go of gripping the bars, it feels like 100 needles are going through the muscle.

Anyone ever experience this? Any advice?
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I only have one week left in my cycle, so I'm not gonna change the gear.
What I really want to know is: Is it really the EQ that's drying up my joints then?
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i understand that you dont want to switch your gear this late, but I have had good results with helping joint pain with only 1 or 2 doses of deca, if you can get your hands on some ,atomicone has the right idea, do a dose of deca, stuff is awesome for joint pain
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how could deca work any better then any other steroid for your joints? dont they all send the same message--- to your body, basically ? aside from ones that turn into estrogen and ones that are just strong androgens( halo, proviron, . curious on this because deca is super expensive over here , while everything else is dirt cheap.
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Deca won't solve your problems, especially short term. Change your workouts and lighten up.
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I couldn't disagree more freak of nature, deca storews more water in the connective tissues which can temporarily case or even cure existing pain in joints. this quote comes straight out of the definition of deca.
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deca lubricates the joints. the pain in your forearms when your curling is tendonitis, i've gotten it off and on for the last few years. do curls with the EZ bar or dumbbells, it helps. also warm up really really good
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Most likely the A-bombs, EQ at 600mg per week with Test never have me a problem.

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I only have one week left in my cycle, so I'm not gonna change the gear.
What I really want to know is: Is it really the EQ that's drying up my joints then?
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I agree. If you're ending your cycle in a week why even worry about switching as BigKarch said it will take between 2-4 weeks to notice any benefits from Deca. How much time are you spending in the gym ( are you over training)? Also, are you currently on A-Bombs because if so that is a big cause of your problems.

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Deca will take about 4 weeks to help with the joint problems. No need to do the Deca if you are stopping your cycle in one week. I think your body is not use to the extra weight/training you may be doing and mostly is a training issue. You may need to take a break, change your training or volume/frequency. No need to do extra AAS.
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I don't know all the variables yet from the info you have given it sounds to me like you may have an underlying problem with your connective tissue...either being inadequate genetically or more likely improper nutritional joint support compounded with rapid gains in muscular strength thus causing a progressive and exceeding demand on your joints performance...
I would start by dropping the A-BOMBS and Throwing in some DECA at 500mgs/week...DECA is notorious for rectifying joint problems via promoting greater water retention within the joints...EQ is good for this as well but to significantly lesser degree...good ol' DECA will serve you well in your predicament,alot better than EQ...anybody experiencing joint problems should include DECA in their...this has been a common practice for years...EQ's water retention properties within the joints should only be considered a bonus...
Bare in mind that the drugs are only going to pay a partial role in rectifying your problem...I would reduce sets down to three working sets per movement and three movements for large muscle groups and two working sets per movement and two movements for smaller muscle groups...allow yourself some extra rest days and realize that overtraining is a probable culprit in this whole thing if at the least playing a role in adding to your problem...
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to deca- or not to deca- that is the question.lol I'm kickin my own ass
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If going with deca at the end, would anyone agree that Anabolic DN from the jacked Kangaroo is the best option? Wouldn't the cypionate give a harder and swifter kick than decanoate?
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