just started second cycle

[bigbench]

Yea, you have the frame that actually is nice for someone to grow on. You might not ever be a Mr O, but you have the smaller joints and thick muscles which means for every five pounds u gain, it looks like 10. At 220, you would be very large and could prob cut down to about 205 and be pretty sick looking.

[dennis]

Originally Posted by rpmjr19

Just took my first shot a couple mins ago! woohooooo

I am running:
Test Cyp @ 400mg/week for 10 weeks, possibly 12
Dbol weeks 2-8 @ 30mg/day
and 10mg of epistane daily: TFSupplements : halo-tren, Winadrol, Xtreme Tren, M-drol, Halovar, H-drol P-plex, Epistane, Halo-tren,

I am only running 400mg of test bc I am only 190 lbs, and I believe the 400 will be just fine

I am running the dbol 2-7 instead of of 1-6 bc I want to save some for when the cyp actually "kicks in"

The epistane is an experiment, I want to see if it will almost act like Nolva or Adex, as it is has anti-estrogen properties, kinda like proviron... and it has anabolic properties as well. Suposedly it prevents ans can even reverse some gyno as well. I don't have any pre-existing gyno, just a lil extra fat over my pecs.

I know 10 weeks is a long time to run 17-aa orals, but at these low doses I think I will be fine

Current stats:
22yo(23 in December)
5'10"
190lbs
13-15%bf

This will be a bulker. I hope to hit 210 by the end of this cycle, and keep it. maybe 220 if I'm lucky

PCT is still up in the air. I have clomid, nolva, and toremifene.

most likely I will run the clomid for weeks 12-14(clomid gets my boys back to shape quick) and then nolva or torem till week 18

No HCG

time to grow

I read this yesterday and waited to reply to see if anyone thought the usage of dbol in mid cycle was the correct thing to do.Using it as a kick start would have been best cause while you are waiting for the cyp to kick the dbol is already hard at work.I would rather see you use dbol weeks 10-14 if you are running cyp weeks 1-12.I also noticed no hcg..hope you have some handy just in case bro.Also weeks 2-7 for dbol is 6 weeks..protect that liver hoss ! Pct is in the air too huh? I would nail that down now and not later..how much nolva do you have ? How much adex ?If you think clomid gets the boys back in shape quickly then do your homework on hcg....just my thoughts for whatever it is worth..d

[rpmjr19]

Originally Posted by dennis

I read this yesterday and waited to reply to see if anyone thought the usage of dbol in mid cycle was the correct thing to do.Using it as a kick start would have been best cause while you are waiting for the cyp to kick the dbol is already hard at work.I would rather see you use dbol weeks 10-14 if you are running cyp weeks 1-12.I also noticed no hcg..hope you have some handy just in case bro.Also weeks 2-7 for dbol is 6 weeks..protect that liver hoss ! Pct is in the air too huh? I would nail that down now and not later..how much nolva do you have ? How much adex ?If you think clomid gets the boys back in shape quickly then do your homework on hcg....just my thoughts for whatever it is worth..d

I have lots of torem, 60ml @ 60mg/ml, 100ct tabs of 20mg Nolva. and 50 ct tabs of 50mg clomid

Adex I have 25 1mg tabs

I don't have HCG on hand, but can get it within a week if I really want it

PCT will most likely be:

100mg clomid + 20mg Nolva weeks 1 and 2
20mg nolva weeks 3-6
10mg nolva week 7

[mr.nitro]

god luck with the cycle bro. be sure to take progress pics.