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Old 03-11-2005, 11:47 AM
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i'm gonna start a new cycle on sunday, it will be

1 week test E 750 mg EQ 750 mg
2 - 10 test E 500 mg EQ 500 mg
2 - 8 40mg dbol EOD (I know it sounds strange but a thread few days ago was showing better results taking it EOD rather than ED; however main reason is that dbol scares me a little, too many sides)
2-10 8ui slin after workout (5 times a week)

PCT will be done with Clomid and Clen. Clen should block the increased levels of Cortisone and Cortisol right?

As antiE I was planning to use Nolvadex, but I read that Proviron doesn't block the receptors but block the conversion to estrogens itself, so it should be better, giving no rebound at the end of the cycle.
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dont do the dbol every other day. It has such a short half life that it wouldn't be as effective as of doing it everyday (4 hour half life i think). Make sure u break up dosage to four/five times a day.
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Old 03-11-2005, 12:10 PM
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d-bol has scary sides, but an insulin induced, hypoglycemic coma doesn't scare you?
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Clomid and clen as PCT? How about some HCG then Clomid or Nolvadex for at least 3 followin your last HCG shot.
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d-bol has scary sides, but an insulin induced, hypoglycemic coma doesn't scare you?

I don't think someone with just a little experience has to be a genious to avoid hypo coma with 8ui a day. Anyway I'll keep my post work out carbs at 120 grams (a little more that 4 onces I think) and I'll have some pops always with me just in case.
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Clomid and clen as PCT? How about some HCG then Clomid or Nolvadex for at least 3 followin your last HCG shot.
I heard that HCG reduces spermogenesis a lot, maybe with just Clomid it will take a little more but I'm fine with that.
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BTW, have I read right about the fact that Clen stops negative effects given by Cortisone and Cortisol?

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I you should choose just one between Nolva and Proviron for anti Estr. therapy DURING cycle, what would you pick?
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I heard that HCG reduces spermogenesis a lot, maybe with just Clomid it will take a little more but I'm fine with that.
Are you trying to have a child right after the cycle, because I got news for you, test enanthate is used for male birth control and you will not be producing sperm for quite some time. Clomid with no balls isn't gonna do shit.
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Are you trying to have a child right after the cycle, because I got news for you, test enanthate is used for male birth control and you will not be producing sperm for quite some time. Clomid with no balls isn't gonna do shit.
no children for another couple of years, I'm still too young (34...)
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BTW, have I read right about the fact that Clen stops negative effects given by Cortisone and Cortisol?

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I you should choose just one between Nolva and Proviron for anti Estr. therapy DURING cycle, what would you pick?

please, i need advice
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frontload at 1g each for the first week.

run the test for 1-2 weeks longer than the eq.

hcg at 500units per week during the cycle will help your post cycle recovery immensely.

proviron would be a better choice than nolva for an in cycle anti-e.

clen is not anti-catabolic in humans.

dbol can be run pre-workout only or eod for added strength gains without the bloat and will allow you to run it longer.

be very careful with the slin, ramp up your dosages. even with the best precautions you can go hypo at anytime for any number of reasons. i have to deal with hypoglycemia on a daily basis because of a family history of diabetes that's just about got it's hold on me. you don't want to get severely hypo alone, you will not be able to realize what is happening around you.
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frontload at 1g each for the first week.

run the test for 1-2 weeks longer than the eq.

hcg at 500units per week during the cycle will help your post cycle recovery immensely.

proviron would be a better choice than nolva for an in cycle anti-e.

clen is not anti-catabolic in humans.

dbol can be run pre-workout only or eod for added strength gains without the bloat and will allow you to run it longer.

be very careful with the slin, ramp up your dosages. even with the best precautions you can go hypo at anytime for any number of reasons. i have to deal with hypoglycemia on a daily basis because of a family history of diabetes that's just about got it's hold on me. you don't want to get severely hypo alone, you will not be able to realize what is happening around you.
thank you a lot ratmonkey, this is what i wanted to know
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completely off-topic david, but every time i see your name i keep thinking it's David the Negro.

ok. i'm done.
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