Leaner Look

[celtic warrior]

I need some advice. I'm am 5'9" 200lbs and have been training for 15yrs. My previous cycle expreince has been test e, tren e, deca, winny, eq. I have done a total of 3 whole cycles. My last being test e, tren e, & deca. I ended up gaining 20-25lbs. At the current time my diet is solid. Diet is not my problem. My problem is that no matter how much cardio I do I can't seem to get my bf lower than 10%...don't know why...I'v tried different methods and changed it up several times. Anyways..

My question is I was looking for a more leaner, vascular look than what I have now. I was thinking of test prop, tren a, masteron for my next cycle. Not really sure about the masteron yet.

wk 1-10 test prop 500mgs
wk 1-10 tren a 400mgs
wk 1-10 masteron 300mgs

wk 11-12 hcg 5000iu/wk
maybe some nolva...not sure...I respond well just to hcg

I understand that the shots should EOD equalling the dosages stated above except for the hcg.

What do you think or suggest?

I've was a member of SSB for the last 3yrs and have found this board to be a close resemblance.

Thanks for your time and advice,
Celtic Warrior

[bigbench]

To get the vascular look, it is going to be your diet and cardio only bro. Taking those compounds wont do it for you. You will get the full benefit of them if you are at a low BF already. But its not going to burn the fat. You need to go crazy strict on your diet, up the cardio big time, try some fat burners and maybe throw something like you have suggested to hold onto your muscle while you are cutting the cals. What is your typical diet like?

[dennis]

Originally Posted by bigbench

To get the vascular look, it is going to be your diet and cardio only bro. Taking those compounds wont do it for you. You will get the full benefit of them if you are at a low BF already. But its not going to burn the fat. You need to go crazy strict on your diet, up the cardio big time, try some fat burners and maybe throw something like you have suggested to hold onto your muscle while you are cutting the cals. What is your typical diet like?

GREAT ADVICE BB ! This was my exact thoughts but could not get it out fast enough..he needs to use some gear to hold his current size while he diets down..he needs to look up the old thread we all used talking about extreme low carbs and tons of protien diet.

[Sensational]

Originally Posted by bigbench

To get the vascular look, it is going to be your diet and cardio only bro. Taking those compounds wont do it for you. You will get the full benefit of them if you are at a low BF already. But its not going to burn the fat. You need to go crazy strict on your diet, up the cardio big time, try some fat burners and maybe throw something like you have suggested to hold onto your muscle while you are cutting the cals. What is your typical diet like?

+1

However, low body fat + the right AAS is sexy.

[xxjaredxx]

Have you considered Clen, T3, DNP ect..?
they are by no means necessary, but just asking.

[BloodyTampons]

ECA stack 2-3 times per day on an empty stomach, 60 minutes of cardio ED on a completely empty stomach, eat really clean, and you'll make it.

[snowleopard]

ok - first of all....."Bloody Tampons"? Nice.....creative, but it made me almost through up in my mouth - lol

but, the "terribly named one" is correct, I have had much personal luck with the ECA stack also, although I stopped doing it years ago for fear of either a) being forced into truck driving or b) killing someone for looking at me wrong - it made me a little edgy - ok, a LOT edgy, ALL THE TIME> one thing, i only did 30 minutes of cardio and got great results and you should also fast for 60 minutes post workout, which is REALLY hard because you will be REALLY hungry, but your body will continue to burn fat at an accelerated pace during that time.

If you have not seen this, check this out, you should drink this Powerthirst from picnicface

and question for the poster - Tren - you have done it before you said? I only did Tren once, it was THE best insane feeling during my workouts, but I always felt depressed and really noticed it in my everyday life - I tried to up the Test or Sus to counterbalance but it still made me miserable. Plus, even worse, my balls would, from time to time, quite literally crawl up inside me and hibernate, and hurt.

Did you experience that?

[celtic warrior]

Originally Posted by snowleopard

ok - first of all....."Bloody Tampons"? Nice.....creative, but it made me almost through up in my mouth - lol

but, the "terribly named one" is correct, I have had much personal luck with the ECA stack also, although I stopped doing it years ago for fear of either a) being forced into truck driving or b) killing someone for looking at me wrong - it made me a little edgy - ok, a LOT edgy, ALL THE TIME> one thing, i only did 30 minutes of cardio and got great results and you should also fast for 60 minutes post workout, which is REALLY hard because you will be REALLY hungry, but your body will continue to burn fat at an accelerated pace during that time.

If you have not seen this, check this out, you should drink this Powerthirst from picnicface

and question for the poster - Tren - you have done it before you said? I only did Tren once, it was THE best insane feeling during my workouts, but I always felt depressed and really noticed it in my everyday life - I tried to up the Test or Sus to counterbalance but it still made me miserable. Plus, even worse, my balls would, from time to time, quite literally crawl up inside me and hibernate, and hurt.

Did you experience that?

While on tren my boys did shrink but did not hurt. I countered that with some tribulus. I did not feel depressed at all during the cycle.

[bigbench]

Originally Posted by celtic warrior

While on tren my boys did shrink but did not hurt. I countered that with some tribulus. I did not feel depressed at all during the cycle.

That is one of those very dependant sides that occurs in different people but not all of them.