Legality of Steroid Powders

[J DUB]

One issue that I have not seen yet is a case involving someone getting caught with powders. The federal sentencing guidelines say 10cc=1 unit and 50 tabs=1 unit, but there is of course no mentioning of powders in any of this.

If charged in a state court that still uses "grams" to determine the quantity of steroids like they are crack or something this could be bad, but federally there is no mention of powders in the law.

This is really a gray issue, as let's say you get caught with 10g of D-bol powder. Well, tabs range anywhere from 5-50mg, so you have anywhere from the equivalent of 200 to 2,000 D-bol tabs. Under the federal guidelines, it doesn't matter if you have a 5mg D-bol tab or a 50mg D-bol tab, but how do they determine how many tablet equivalents you have from 10g of powder?

Also, on this issue, what about Finaplix? Say some agents come in and they find a box of fina pellets and also some conversion kits. While the fina pellets themselves are not really illegal, you would likely be charged with intent to manufacture at least (just like if you had tons of sudafed with the stuff to make meth), but how do they determine how much fina you would be charged with possessing if they were still unconverted? People make it anywhere from 50mg/ml to 200mg/ml, so obviously 10cc's of 50mg is not the same as 10cc's of 200mg/ml.

Just thought I would bring this up, as it seems like it is just a matter of time before something like this happens and it will be interesting to see how they prosecute these cases.

[Bob Smith]

Powders and items like finaplix are illegal, no question about it. I will check my Legal Muscle book to find you a reference, but essentially any raw material or finished product is deemed to be illegal.

[Beefy]

Bump for an excellent thread.

[J DUB]

I have read Legal Muscle front to back, and have not seen any reference to a case or law involving powders or Finaplix. I have no doubt that they are both illegal (fina being a gray issue but the feds aren't stupid), but the big question is how do you determine how to prosecute someone based on say 10g of D-bol or 50g of test powder?

[Bob Smith]

Originally Posted by J DUB

I have read Legal Muscle front to back, and have not seen any reference to a case or law involving powders or Finaplix. I have no doubt that they are both illegal (fina being a gray issue but the feds aren't stupid), but the big question is how do you determine how to prosecute someone based on say 10g of D-bol or 50g of test powder?

That Im not sure of. I suppose the authorities may do a little math..10g = 10,000mg / 10mg each = 1,000 tabs. Its hard to say since Im not aware of any specific cases involving only powders.

[freedomfighter]

You can pose a question to Rick Collins at his website. I'm sure he would be interested in this. Good question!

[J DUB]

FF, I'll do that. I am sure it is something he will need to start thinking about as well, as it is just a matter of time before something like this comes around. It's a real shame we have to even have this discussion anyways.