Light Cycle suggestions

[Lizard King]

I'm looking to run a light cycle, meaning I don't want to get so big I can't even tie my tie. My last cycle I was doing 750mg of Enanthate/week for 12 weeks and 200mg of EQ EOD for 4 weeks. and if I remember correctly I had some tren A in there somewhere. I have 56inch shoulders so when I bulk that much extra on it's hard to do anything. I have used tren and love it also have run winny with good results before.
What I have is Prop 100mg, Enanthate 250mg, Tren A 75mg, Deca 300mg, EQ 200mg, winny 100mg all enough for 12 weeks and anything I don't have I can trade for. I'd rather not shoot everyday so keeping that in mind, anyone have any suggestions? Thanks

[HDH]

Wow, with that drug store you've got you should know how to run it.

You should be more specific about your goals and give your stats.

HDH

[lou123]

[quote=Lizard King
What I have is Prop 100mg, Enanthate 250mg, Tren A 75mg, Deca 300mg, EQ 200mg, winny 100mg all enough for 12 weeks and anything I don't have I can trade for. I'd rather not shoot everyday so keeping that in mind, anyone have any suggestions? Thanks[/QUOTE]


Just wondering what a heavy cycle would be,lol

I consider a light cycle 500 mg of T for 10 weeks, somehow I'm thinking you don't.

[dennis]

750 mgs test,tren and eq..did you consider this a light cycle too ? HDH is correct in all of his comments.We do need more info.A good light cycle for this guy might be 300 mgs tren enth with 500 mgs test enth 10 -12 weeks

[advanced-stealth]

Agree.

Originally Posted by HDH

Wow, with that drug store you've got you should know how to run it.

You should be more specific about your goals and give your stats.

HDH

[Lizard King]

Sorry for the lack of details, and no I didn't consider 750mg of Test with Tren and EQ a light cycle, it was very heavy for me and I got so thick I couldn't do much. In a little over a year I have put on about 35lbs from not being able to lift and of course not being able to lift I wasn't just doing cardio so that being said I am 6ft, about 320lb and needing to lose about 50lbs. I have been back at the gym for about 3 months now and getting back up there in weight (lifting that is). My wrist ingury seems to be fine and I am ready to start a cycle and get my cardio back up. I think my obvious choice would be be between 50 - 100mg of prop and an equal amount of tren A every other day. That should be good to cut down and build up. I was looking for some suggestions as to what I could take to not get so massive as I pack on muscle rather quickly (not a bad thing) but I get so big in my shoulders and arms I can barley scratch my back or shoot my shoulders. I was also looking to try and limit the amount of shots I have to take in a week if possible. Hope that is enough for now, I don't have my body fat or anything like that, I do know most of my measurements if those are needed, I think not though. Thanks!

[Stormbringer]

Bro, what others are saying is definitely correct, sounds like your sitting on a pharmacy and not very specific with the goals here. Nothing lite about that cycle either. It sounds like if you are at 320lbs and been training again for three months after an jury, unless your National level competitor or Pro, I imagine you are trying to drop weight and harden up. I would definitely stay away from the Test E and anything else that aromatizes or has any estogenic sides. I would even drop the EQ from the stack and go with something more like a Tren, Winny, Mastabol E stack with a little Test Suspension or Prop ran for the first 4 weeks tapering down and bringing in the Mastabol E as the Test fades out. Maybe even throw in some Proviron for the duration after you have stopped the Test. I am not trying to by a dick here but, and I can not say for sure with out seeing photos, but I would almost bet that you diet plan for cutting is way off or you would not complain about the problems of getting too big! Who has ever heard of that anyways. I mean I can not scratch my own back either or do like a front bicep pose and I can not get anywhere near my shoulder with the same hand any more, but it does not really hamper any of my functioning. Well I do have some sleep issues with the shoulders. But aside from that, when dieted and lean all mobility is back and you do not have that heavy feeling even getting out of bed. I do not mean like last stages of Contest Prep diet, I mean just something sensible to keep your bodyfat down even in off season training so you do not have these issues. Anyway, hopes this helps.

[jsupstarz]

Originally Posted by Stormbringer

Bro, what others are saying is definitely correct, sounds like your sitting on a pharmacy and not very specific with the goals here. Nothing lite about that cycle either. It sounds like if you are at 320lbs and been training again for three months after an jury, unless your National level competitor or Pro, I imagine you are trying to drop weight and harden up. I would definitely stay away from the Test E and anything else that aromatizes or has any estogenic sides.

Absolutley not. Unless you are injured to the point where you shouldn't even be lifting. And of course in this case i would recommend LOW doses...

[HDH]

I'm going to suggest that you use the Prop only at 100mg EOD. Also, a Clen /T3 stack alternating with an ECA stack every 2 weeks.

I would stay away from multi aas stacks and higher doses especially anything with Tren in it right now. 50lbs is a lot of weight to loose and cardio won't be an option for you with high doses /Tren as you will be winded very easily. You don't need all the fancy cutting drugs right now for hardness and definition because you have to be at an already low BF% to see the difference with those type of aas. There is too much weight to be lost and all you need is a minimal amount of aas to maintain muscle while you diet hard. Don't just cut your calories way back, take this time to train yourself to eat better /healthier.

HDH

[Lizard King]

Def have a good diet planned out as well as a cardio schedule, I am looking to drop weight as well as build up some additional muscle and tone. I'm not really interested in any fancy cutting cycles as I have weight to lose before I can even think of that and I want to keep realistic goals. My injury was to my wrist, had a bad case of Tenosynovitis and I couldn't even pick up a book, let alone a weight. Benching over 100lb dumbells and 50lb dumbell curls as of this week and no recourance so far, everything else seems to be ramping up as well.
I have clen that I was going to start with 80 mcgs a day for the 1st week and then ramp up to 120mcgs the second week and 160mcgs every week there after and stay on with some benadryl through the cycle and as long as I could take the heat during the summer. Last time I took Cytomel I hated it. I beleive I cycled it correctly with 1/2 for 2 weeks, 1 for 2 week, 1 1/2 for 2 weeks, 2 for 1 week and then back down, just had really bad neck throbbing and was just generally uncomfortable with it.
So 100mg of Prop EOD, for 12 weeks would be the way to go? Thanks for your opinions so far.

[novicebb]

Originally Posted by Lizard King

I'm looking to run a light cycle, meaning I don't want to get so big I can't even tie my tie. My last cycle I was doing 750mg of Enanthate/week for 12 weeks and 200mg of EQ EOD for 4 weeks. and if I remember correctly I had some tren A in there somewhere. I have 56inch shoulders so when I bulk that much extra on it's hard to do anything. I have used tren and love it also have run winny with good results before.
What I have is Prop 100mg, Enanthate 250mg, Tren A 75mg, Deca 300mg, EQ 200mg, winny 100mg all enough for 12 weeks and anything I don't have I can trade for. I'd rather not shoot everyday so keeping that in mind, anyone have any suggestions? Thanks

week 1-4 Test prop 100mg eod, 50mg winny orally daily or 100mg injecting eod
Week 5-12 250mg Enanthate every 3 days along with 200mg of EQ every 3 days. You could ad 75mg Tren Ace eod if you want but I would just stick to what I suggested.

You should have great hard lean muscle mass with out too much water gain and your pumps will be nice as well do to the EQ. I personally don't like the idea of injecting 200mg of EQ EOD along with more then 500mg of Test Enanthate weekly.

[HDH]

Just stick with the Prop bro. That's all you need for your goals at this point. The way it's listed above there will be a Test "gap" between the Prop and blood level build up of the Enan and you don't need Winny while trying to loose 50lbs. The EQ would be optional but such a low dose wouldn't do much and the Prop will do what you need it to.

HDH

[Lizard King]

Thanks, I have never tried prop before so now I'm looking forward to give it a shot, no pun intended Do you run it for 12 weeks usually? Also, what kind of PCT do you recommend for a 12 week prop only cycle? I have letro and hcg but by reading some posts I'm thinking I need something else.

[HDH]

Originally Posted by Lizard King

Thanks, I have never tried prop before so now I'm looking forward to give it a shot, no pun intended Do you run it for 12 weeks usually? Also, what kind of PCT do you recommend for a 12 week prop only cycle? I have letro and hcg but by reading some posts I'm thinking I need something else.

Most run Prop for 8 to 10 weeks but it's up to you. I've never used Letro for PCT before. I would use Nolva for 4 to 6 weeks at 20mg ED but that is up to you also.

I hope you get some good painless Prop.

HDH

[Lizard King]

Ok, just did my first shot, was it supposed to hurt while shooting or after? As I said, never did prop before and I'm looking forward to some good things! I plan on going for 8 weeks, if things are looking rather well then I may extend it for 10.