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last time i did a test/eq cycle i ran test at 300/wk and eq at 300/wk. i gained a ton of weight on that cycle, almost 30 lbs. now i am on a test/dbol stack running the test at 500 and dbol at 30mg/day and i dont seem to be gaining nearly as much mass. is the liquidex to blame?
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Did you take some type of anti-e with your first cycle? Using anti-e's will reduce your water weight gains and if you take too much, also your muscular weight gains.

I would guess in your case you're probably not experiencing much water retention, therefore not as much weight gain, and there may be other variables that differ from your first cycle to now. Not to mention, the bigger you get, the slower the gains come. If you kept most of your first 30 pounds, you can't expect to gain another 30 pounds as easily or fast.

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Liquidex cuts boobie gains, an extra 5lbs. aint goona look good with tits

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i dont feel like i am retaing any water at all. should i cut the liquidex dose down a little maybe?
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how much liquidex are you taking at the moment?
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i am taking .25mg liquidex a day
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im on H's dbol so im not too worried about it being fake. im also on zencall sust which is supposed to be good stuff. my strength is through the roof but the size isnt there....i think the ldex is to blame. i just hope the minimal water gain doesnt mean hindered muscle gains
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You should probably go to .25mg EOD as you're not really taking that much AAS. It's important to remember the crucial role estrogen plays in building muscle.

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do u think that .25mg EOD is better than 12.5mg ED?
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Bro drop the dex for a few weeks, unless you are really prone to Gyno.
My cycle is double yours, and I don't take that much anti-est.

Don't get me wrong, Anti-est's are a very important part of aas use.
You just need to learn your body a little better. It might take a couple of cycles to get it down. I can feel when I need more Dex.
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Bro drop the dex for a few weeks, unless you are really prone to Gyno.
My cycle is double yours, and I don't take that much anti-est.

Don't get me wrong, Anti-est's are a very important part of aas use.
You just need to learn your body a little better. It might take a couple of cycles to get it down. I can feel when I need more Dex.


What do you feel?
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to be honest im not sure. some days i feel dry as a bone, others i feel like im seeing gyno symptoms. i really havent got much bloat at all, a little in the face is all
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Overuse of anti-e's is rampant on this board, look up the article series growing beyond what nature intended on this site, very informative. I personally use no anti-e's at all and have used up to 3 grams of test a week in bulk cycles and never once have i had even a touch of gyno, some are of course more susceptible than others but i crack up when a guy is shooting 500mg of test and taking 1 mg of ari per day just serious overkill.
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