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Old 09-21-2006, 10:36 PM
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Boy we're getting short-tempered with each other here in this forum, aren't we? Especially with newbies who aren't real good at articulating things. We were all there once, weren't we kiddos? Let's stop spraying testosterone on our keyboards. We could afford to be a bit more civil.
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Old 09-21-2006, 10:54 PM
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Although there was never a time i was a newbee, i agree with you .. stop being so mean guys
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Old 09-22-2006, 11:11 AM
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Boy we're getting short-tempered with each other here in this forum, aren't we? Especially with newbies who aren't real good at articulating things. We were all there once, weren't we kiddos? Let's stop spraying testosterone on our keyboards. We could afford to be a bit more civil.
You can get more done with a smile than a i'm better than you stance. Yes i'm new to the forum but also don't feel i'm new to this stuff, and i'm not saying i know everything and hopefully would never say that. i'm learning more every day and the day you don't learn something new some say is a wasted day. someone famous once said "i'm to old to know everything". I have been on the end of flak and understand the member's who have been here longer than me deserve there respect they have earned it in the gym and with their helpfull suggestion's. We were all new at some point and time and forget how it felt when we were treated as ignorant or as we didn't belong.
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Greyowl,

I have to say thank you and I really do appreciate what you wrote and I hope that all the senior guys here think/act like you. If you looked my name up you will see that I also got funny replies from some senior members here when I started asking!!! But do I/we ( new members ) really have to be blamed for not knowing!! And this is why I am here asking and seeking help from you guys, right!

So, once again thank you for being considerate
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i agree completely, if any newbies need help with anything or questions dont be afraid to ask or PM me im available alot and check my e-mail and PM's constantly due to so many people writing me
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Thanks testfreak, actually I think you replied to a couple of questions from me and you were very helpful in regards to sending the gear to be tested in a lab. And actually I will need help soon as I got my hand on some gear (sustanon 250mg, dbol, nolvadex, clomid, proviron). But I am missing the deca still, and I was wondering if I can get help from you guys to make the best out of what I have. I will write again and let you know more about me (weight, height, fat ... etc.) because I am at work now.

And once again, I would like to thank you testfreak, greyowl, Untold, mannyfresh (I hope I did not forget any names) for being considerate, patience & helpful. And as it was said before, we were all new at one time!!

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People who feel they're getting a rough ride from someone else should contact one of the mods.
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People who feel they're getting a rough ride from someone else should contact one of the mods.
Do you say that cause you want to be part of the rough ride... Like when Freaky Freddy used to give you "rough rides" ... You don't have any rug burns on your eye lids do you
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We've definitely had some strides of improvement over the last month or so. I can recall that before I was a senior member, not too long ago, I would get pm'ed all the time by other newbies wanting advise but were too afraid to ask on the open board for fear of getting flamed. Most of those responsible have left or been delt with now, and things are on an upstroke for sure.

Most of all, I am suprised by this apparent change in attitude by you mods. A month ago, ALL of you were singing quite a different tune about hostile or otherwise rude posts. Suggestions of "ignore it" or "deal with it" seemed to be the order of the day. I can even recall some saying that, issues such as these were not all together important when compared to issues of the past.

Don't get me wrong, I like the shape of things to come. But I do take issue with those who come in with post facto suggestions. We lost a great member due to the rude posts of a certian other member [cough]foremanrules[cough] that went unaddressed, and I don't want to see that happen again.

If I could give advise to new members, I would say, treat this board as though you were walking into a conversation that is already in progress. Do not jump in and start spewing all of your wisdom; you don't whether that subject has already been covered, or how much or little you know in comparison to the other members. Just because you know more than the rest of your buddies doesn't mean you know shit here. Take your time to get a feel for the personalities of the other members before you address them in an informal manner. I made this mistake along with another senior, and it made for an embarrassing moment to say the least. Always, inquire before you suggest advise. Cite your sources. And never chastise anyone for asking anything. But feel free to beat them over the head with a wooden spoon if they've done something stupid already. For example, a fella who just took 1000mg of deca and can't figure out why his dick died. Mark my words there are people out there who will ask something like this
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I can recall that before I was a senior member, not too long ago, I would get pm'ed all the time by other newbies wanting advise but were too afraid to ask on the open board for fear of getting flamed.
Really? Seems a bit odd to me that "newbies" would be pming another Newbie for help... Who are you again? You've been here all of three months and you consider yourself somebody on this board?


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Most of all, I am surprised by this apparent change in attitude by you mods. A month ago, ALL of you were singing quite a different tune about hostile or otherwise rude posts. Suggestions of "ignore it" or "deal with it" seemed to be the order of the day. I can even recall some saying that, issues such as these were not all together important when compared to issues of the past.
You're taking what someone said out of context and trying to twist it in order to push a personal agenda of yours. Truth be told one of your buddies acted like a spoiled brat and took his ball and went home cause some one was disagreeing with him and called him names. If he doesn't have thicker skin then that he probably shouldn't get on the internet and he should definitly avoid message boards.

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But I do take issue with those who come in with post facto suggestions.
Take all the issue you want. It doesn't change the fact that the inmates do not run the asylum. Grey's post in no way says we've taken a 180 on how we do things. He's simply stating that the members should back off of flaming newbies for posting simple questions. That's it. We've always had this rule and we're doing nothing different today than we did 5 years ago. We are moderators on an internet message board that requires the posting members be legal adults. We are not elementary school recess monitors (although we do feel like that on occasion) We shouldn't have to constantly intervene between bickering members who can't act like adults.

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We lost a great member due to the rude posts of a certain other member [cough]foremanrules[cough] that went unaddressed, and I don't want to see that happen again.
A great member??? That's laughable. I disagree completely. I don't think much of guys who take their ball and go home cause something doesn't go how they like. We have the "Ignore" button for a reason. If he was that bothered he should have used it. Who gives a shit about foreman rules? Again, it's sad that we even had to step in between two arguing kiddos. And for the record. Foreman rules got banned for his actions... And your "Great Member" pissed and moaned about him as he was running for the door.

Some of this confuses me. I can't believe that you want more rules.. that you want us to be stricter and do more parenting around here. That's confusing to me. Most people buck and fight when we tighten the reigns around here.. You're actually asking for it.

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If I could give advice to new members, I would say, treat this board as though you were walking into a conversation that is already in progress. Do not jump in and start spewing all of your wisdom; you don't whether that subject has already been covered, or how much or little you know in comparison to the other members.
Maybe you should take your own advice. How long have you been a member here again?? You think making a bunch of posts in three months entitles you to respect? Look, you're in the minority here wanting mods to crack the whip.

Again, People who are members here are legal adults. 99% of them are good members and don't need more rules to follow. And it's not fair that 1% are trying to make things harder for everyone else cause they can't handle someone giving them shit or disagreeing with them.

This board has been around a very long time. And flaming is something that has always been a part of it. WELCOME to the internet. Foreman rules and what's his name's little arguing match doesn't mean anything in the scope of things. And if he couldn't take it and had to run away... Well, it's simply not a big loss.

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