Longest possible test run on low dosages? - MESO-Rx

bjjkid · #1 (**permalink**) 07-23-2009, 10:36 AM

I wanted your help and opinions I got blood work awhile back 3 months ago and my test levels where at the low 400's. I'm a 23 old male who is extremely active and compete regularly in Jiu-jitsu competitions. I decided to take 100mg of test-cyp a week with every two weeks 250-400ius of HCG. The week of my competitons I normally take 200mg of test-cyp. How long can I run this for? Is it safe/not safe? If I decide to get off in another 2 months would I need a PCT? I know that this is very small amounts in comparison to alot of people but the 100-200mg I take a week makes a huge difference to my overall performance and well-being I feel. I do not want to permantely damage anything for my lack of knowledge or kill future generations. Thank you please advise

dennis · #2 (**permalink**) 07-23-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bjjkid

I wanted your help and opinions I got blood work awhile back 3 months ago and my test levels where at the low 400's. I'm a 23 old male who is extremely active and compete regularly in Jiu-jitsu competitions. I decided to take 100mg of test-cyp a week with every two weeks 250-400ius of HCG. The week of my competitons I normally take 200mg of test-cyp. How long can I run this for? Is it safe/not safe? If I decide to get off in another 2 months would I need a PCT? I know that this is very small amounts in comparison to alot of people but the 100-200mg I take a week makes a huge difference to my overall performance and well-being I feel. I do not want to permantely damage anything for my lack of knowledge or kill future generations. Thank you please advise

I would say 3 months of this and then run proper pct and you should be fine.But with your low range natural level you better run pct and continue using hcg maybe 750 ius per week.

mr.nitro · #3 (**permalink**) 07-23-2009, 04:49 PM

I run 300mg test between cycles, ive done this around 3 years now

dennis · #4 (**permalink**) 07-23-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mr.nitro

I run 300mg test between cycles, ive done this around 3 years now

Nitro..with all due respect sir, You are going to give newbs the wrong idea.

Jeton · #5 (**permalink**) 07-23-2009, 06:06 PM

it's all a question of acceptable trade-offs...i've been on test since 2006, but i take it to maintain bodyweight and immune function to combat my HIV, so i'm willing to rsik more than most. i'm not sure your baseline T levels would qualify you for TRT with most doctors, so your BJJ career is at risk if any governing body decides to test you.

mr.nitro · #6 (**permalink**) 07-24-2009, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dennis

Nitro..with all due respect sir, You are going to give newbs the wrong idea.

good point, I should add that I am on it for life. ill never recover from the crap I put my body thru.

**Bigkarch** · #7 (**permalink**) 07-24-2009, 02:44 PM

IMHO your too young to use that as a competitive factor... hate to see you do that....but I have not seen a study where those doses did long term damage

BBC3 · #8 (**permalink**) 07-24-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mr.nitro

I run 300mg test between cycles, ive done this around 3 years now

At last, a true bothra.....

bjjkid · #9 (**permalink**) 07-27-2009, 10:35 AM

I currently have a doctor monitoring my levels we draw bloods every 2 months. Let me know if this sounds wrong but I was told that if my levels never exceed anything that isn't normal I should be fine. His goal was to keep me at a 600 level constant. Since im not going into the 800 and 900 levels shouldn't I be fine? Again i'm not sure that's why i'm just asking for your opinions on the matter. But the highest my levels have been were high 500s and low 600s same with my HGH went from 65 to 600 which I was told was a safe range as well. I also was under the impression I wouldn't need a PCT since Im not exceeding the normal test range.