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Old 04-15-2007, 10:55 AM
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along with a good diet, what are the best drugs/ cycle for losing bodyfat and retaining muscle?
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You're asking the wrong question. Sorry for the asshole response, but NOTHING will take the place of excercise. Good diet and excercise will drop pounds VERY well. Great diet and great excercise will drop pounds amazingly. If you keep protein high, and work your ass off...you will literally...work your ass off. Once you've mastered the art of diet and excercise, you can look into DNP, which when taken correctly and respected will break you through whatever plateau you hit. NOTHING...NOTHING NOTHING Will replace Excercise.
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You're asking the wrong question. Sorry for the asshole response, but NOTHING will take the place of excercise. Good diet and excercise will drop pounds VERY well. Great diet and great excercise will drop pounds amazingly. If you keep protein high, and work your ass off...you will literally...work your ass off. Once you've mastered the art of diet and excercise, you can look into DNP, which when taken correctly and respected will break you through whatever plateau you hit. NOTHING...NOTHING NOTHING Will replace Excercise.
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Old 04-15-2007, 04:39 PM
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Alright, since I failed to address the actual question. Here's a more mature answer:

Read the How not to fuck up DNP thread, this will give you 50% of the information you'll need about DNP. Then search through some DNP logs and look at people's supplementation and diet plans. Read some more about DNP, and then Read a little bit more about it. At this point you will have enough information about DNP to know if it is right for you. Like I said earlier, there is nothing you can take and eat a shitty diet and not excercise and lose weight. Liposuction, Subdernal injection and surgery are the only "lazy" ways to lose fat, and these are only last resort measures, and will make you a skinny, out of shape person. There are lots of other cutting agents, and hormones. T3, Clen, Albuterol, and others that all act on different pathways. There are Gurus on here and other boards that could help you with those. There are also Steroids that can be used in "cutting cycles." But again, without excellent nutrition and excercise these will do more harm than good(IMHO.)

Other options include insulin modification, Growth Hormones, stiumlants, OTC thermogenics and Herbal supplements. Growth hormone fraction is ver effective, and very expensive. Stiumlants work well, especially when coupled with other methods. A very popular quasi legal stimulant is the EC(A/Y) stack, this is Ephedra, Caffeine and Either Aspirin or Yohimbine. I have heard that Aspirin will stunt muscle growth, and maybe even slow lipolysis. But, ephedra and caffeiene are effective at speeding up any good diet and excercise program. Many BB's and athletes take an ECY or EC all year long. As far as herbals go, There are lots of herbs with big promises, big pricetags, and little payoff. For less money, you could be on an INCREDIBLY efective DNP program.

Next topic(this is a personal response) People argue about weight loss all the time, but the name of the game is fat loss, and you mentioned "While saving muscle." Keep protein high. No matter what diet you are on, if your protein intake is less than 1.5g/kg body weight, you are not feeding your muscle pporperly. Muscle mass is your metabolism, and the more muscle you have the easier you can cut. Everybody gets to a point at some time in their life where they want to look/feel/perform better and fat is in the way, but nobody goes from pig to greek god in a day, nor a week, month or even a year in most cases. Fitness isn't a track meet, it's a marathon(Ice cube referance.)

Consistancy: IT's easier to keep off fat than to burn fat, but it's much less fun. If you're bulking and cutting, you will be dropping fat quickly, but if you're just trying to shed fat that's been there a long time...old habits die hard, so you need to stick with it. Commit yourself. If you spent a few years gaining the weight, how can you expect to lose it in a few weeks.

Support, another big topic. If you have a lot of fat to lose. Do not surround yourself with gluttons. Be with people that are health minded and have similar goals. This makes all the difference in the world(Or at least it did for me) When you are around people that abuse their bodies, you will act similarly.

You did not ask about diet, but check out www.Bodyrecomposition.com . They have some well planned and very cool/very scientific diets over there. You won't be disapointed.

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that was a good reply. that's what i like from this board,honest answers.
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Most people do not really know about the diet. It is more specific than you think to get the most out of it. Meal portions,times, amt's, amt. of activity. But diet and excersise can let you retain muscle and burn fat at a healthy pace w/o drugs.
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