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Old 04-06-2004, 01:40 PM
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One of my friends is six weeks into a 40mg/day D-Bol cycle. Him and his new wife are trying to start a family, and he just had his sperm count tested. I guess that "normal" is something around 20,000,000 per d/l, and his is only 800,000! Could this be from the D-Bol? If so, what should his PCT look like to get the boys swimming again? His wife has no idea of the AAS, and is obviously concerned about the low count.
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One of my friends is six weeks into a 40mg/day D-Bol cycle. Him and his new wife are trying to start a family, and he just had his sperm count tested. I guess that "normal" is something around 20,000,000 per d/l, and his is only 800,000! Could this be from the D-Bol? If so, what should his PCT look like to get the boys swimming again? His wife has no idea of the AAS, and is obviously concerned about the low count.
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There is a good article in the articles section of this site pertaining to AAS and sperm count. Basically, estrogen levels in the male body are responsible for the production of sperm. Products like Nolvadex, Arimidex and Proviron are the enemy when it comes to producing sperm. Is your friend taking any of this?
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No - he's on a D-Bol only cycle, and was planning on running Clomid post cycle.
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No - he's on a D-Bol only cycle, and was planning on running Clomid post cycle.
has he ever had his count tested befre a cycle? I just made a kid about 2 weeks after a 16 week test/tren cycle, without using HCG for recovery (used clomid for 3 weeks post cycle). He may just have a low sperm count.
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Not knowing his pre-dball count, it isn;t shocking. Dball is pretty suppresive within days. There is actually supression with moderate doses within the first 48 hours. If he is taking a hefty dose of dball and spacing out his doses (some people say a single morning dose causes less suppression, true or not i don't know), 4 days will easily show decent suppression. Everyone is different, so he may be really susceptible to dball suppression plus he isn't taking any anti-estros concurrently and dball aromatizes very quickly (did he have his estros levels tested as well?)
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He never had any testing done - only went b/c of her. Should he start PCT now? If so, run Clomid, Nolva, HCG, or a combo.
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He never had any testing done - only went b/c of her. Should he start PCT now? If so, run Clomid, Nolva, HCG, or a combo.
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eiither clomid or HCG will work
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He never had any testing done - only went b/c of her. Should he start PCT now? If so, run Clomid, Nolva, HCG, or a combo.
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If your boy has access to an aromatase inhibotor like armidex, letro, exemestane, etc. he should defintely add that, it will kill estrogen production instead of ust blocking it at the receptor sites. PCT therapy is his choice depending on his girl and starting a family. Ideally, he stops the dball and beings PCT. If he can delay with girl, I would save the HCG till almost end of cycle. Clomid, nolva now w/o HCG will help now and could begin. HCG during cycle would be a temporary fix and raise LH levels temporarily but will be needed again when the cycle is actually almost over. Don't know how long your buddy intends to cycle.
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