low test level

[orge]

sustanon250 / dbol / hcg/pregnyl / winstrol / trenbolone

june 13 250 mgsust / 30mge/ddbol
june18 250 mgsust / 30mge/d dbol
june23 250mgsust / 30mge/ddbol
june28 250mgsust / 30mge/ddbol
july3 500mgsust / july4 800iuhcg/july7800iuhcg/july10 800iuhcg
july8 500mgsust / july13 500mgsust /
july18 500mgsust
july23 500 mgsust / july24 -aug21 50mg e/d winny
july28 500mgsust
aug2 500mg sust / aug4-aug25 35mg e/dtren
aug7 250mgsust
sept5 800iuhcg
sept8 800iuhcg
sept11 800iu hcg


clomid:
sept12-17 100mg e/d
sept18-oct11 50mg e/d

liquidex/arimidex eod for entire cycle

novadex whenever i have water retetion or sign of gyno i take 30mg e/d for one week also i will take it at the end of the cycle with clomid at 30mg/ed for one week then 20mg for second week for post cycle theropy

i am 6'1 255 15-20%bf this is my secound cycle i have done as you can see i have used hcg post cycle. i also went to my doctor to have my testosterone level tested tested on november 4 almost three months after my last shot of test and my testosterone serum level was 111 when average runs 241-827 so i am still very low. i felt at that time i was back to normal. i felt fine. when he told me my test level was low i have felt depressed ever since he has recomended that i see a endocrinoligist but the soonest i can get into one will be late march thats not for 3 months. i am only 23 and dont feel like having sex i can still get hard but i am not as horney as i usally am and it sux. i dont know what i should do .i was hoping someone on here could help me out i feel like i am lifting for no reason i havent gained a pound in three months and i want to get back on shit but i dont want mess myself up i was think of doing a inslin only cycle only what kind of gains could i expect from that? is there anything i can do to get my test up? did i do something wrong with pct? thanks for the help it it greatly apprecaited.

[RobbieH02879]

Sounds to me like you may have had naturally low levels even prior to your cycles,now that you know for sure from the tests that your testosterone level is low your mindset may be hurting the functions of your body, e.g. like when you can't get it up because of anxiety or fear when you are first with a girl or the such,meaning that your mind may be exagerating a condition that you may have had longer than you thought.I am far from the most knowledgable on this subject,but IMO you have done nowhere near enough to permenantly damage your natural test levels,but anythings possible,someone who has experience with this particular subject should answer this post soon.

[mxim]

3 months is not enough time after a cycle such as that. i've been to many doctors. you need at leadt 6 months.take that to the bank!

[orge]

how can i go six months out of the year with that low of a test level that is wasting six months of bodybuilding. so there is no way of recoverying faster i cant take feeling like this for six months at time. thank for the replys guys!

[mxim]

use clomid for 30 days(50 mgs per day). if you want to reurn to your natural set back point without the assistance of drugs,it will take a long time. use hcg during your cycle at very small dosages such as 250-5oo iu twice a week.this will keep your testes from being atrophied thus being more resposive to your own lh when the AAS are discontinued. keep in mind,it takes a few weeks for your drugs to leave your system(especially deca and eq).start the clomid at least 2-4 weeks after your last shot of test.i usually wait 3 weeks.

[orge]

mxim


i did use hcg during mid cycle(@800iu 3 times over 7 days) and after my cycle three weeks after my last shot of test(@800iu 3 time over 7 days) i also used clomid for 30day after the hcg (@ 100mgs for 5 days) and (50 mgs for 25 days)combined with nolva (@ 30mg for 7days) then (@20 for 7 days) then i waited a month after that when i felt back to normal and my test level was still 111 on the 241-827 scale and now it has been a month after that and i feel like my test is still low i dont feel like haveing sex (i have sex normally like a rabbit im 23) and i feel like i am overtrained in the gym.