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PART II of Two part article Testosterone helps your body build muscle. That is why women do not have as fast a metabolism as a man nor will she ever be able to develop her body to the point of making her BMR super-accelerated. Most of this metabolic ugliness described in this document is going to happen to a man. Stress symptoms as such are identical to symptoms of overtraining, and Mr. Mentzer has stated, and I am sure that you will agree with him, that everyone has overdone it once in a while. Trained too long. Missed a meal. But in this scenario, stress symptoms are also the signs of an extremely fast metabolism. Do not misunderstand!: bodybuilding does not give one a hyperthyroid, hypoglycemia, pheocromocytoma, or adrenal tumours--all of which cause metabolic stress. Bodybuilding just takes your natural cellular oxidation rate, and magnifies/enlarges it--from whatever it was to something higher. All people, mostly men, lifting weights will develop a faster cellular oxidation rate in their cells, and so a higher overall BMR. If you have a higher cellular oxidation rate to start off with but have all the other correct physical genetics to be big, train right, eat right, rest, your metabolism is going to naturally super-accelerate because the natural setting of your cells, now amplified by bodybuilding, will make it happen. Even though you do not have the above mentioned medical conditions, your body will begin to metabolically behave as if you had hypoglycemia, hyperthyroidism, or adrenal tumours even though you do not have them. Your BMR will go so fast that it will put you into stress,and you will suffer stress symptoms. One wants to have the lowest possible cellular oxidation rate in one's muscle cells to start off with. Most people are confused about that. An official survey taken in a gym from 78 people show that 54% thought that you had to have a fast metabolism to be a successful bodybuilder and 22% thought you had to have a slow metabolism. This is 1997. Should we not try to tackle this, or at least make an educated guess as to what the correct metabolism in the cells should be? Bodybuilding is about real live humans. If something goes wrong, it is not like paperwork at the office that you can leave and come back to tomorrow. This is a real live person who pays the consequences. Saying that bodybuilding is narcissic or stupid does not solve problems. It just covers them up, and makes it all worse. These are things that I have heard my whole life, and it's rather sad. I state for the record: All BMR's will increase, but in order to get the most amount of hypertrophy of whatever potential and other genetic physical factors you have, you have to have a very low metabolism in your muscle cells to start off with. Your first response to Anti-Arnold: Then, eat more meals. You are not eating enough. Right. Anti-Arnold cannot eat his way out of the energy deficit that he is now in. His stomach is of finite size, and no human being can eat a fulling meal and then eat another fulling meal in another hour. No human being can swallow 40,000 calories in one day. And a catch-22 has now come into affect. Even though the person needs a massive energy intake, the process of eating makes one more sick. Question: How is that you ask? First the simple answer. The ingestion of food, espcially protein, causes an increase in the metabolism above that during fasting. (Any metabolism and nutrition textbook will tell you that). Anti-Arnold sits down at a table in a energy-defunct state, eats his big plate of sphagetti. For ten minutes afterwards, he feels good. Then the process of digestion accelerates his metabolism, but his metabolism was already a little accelerated to begin with. Fifteen minutes after the sphagetti, Anti-Arnold's face is burning, and his stomach has become even more nauseated. He needs food because his vital energy reserves are low, but the process of trying to replenish his reserves accelerates his already accelerated metabolism. Poor guy. To back this up, let us go and look at a person who has developed a very fast cellular oxidation rate in his cells. Let us look at the remedy for a hyperthyroid/hypoglycemia person. He is not given a massive carbohydrate meal. Such a person is given a high protein, low carbohydrate diet. The reason: the high amount of protein modulates or prevents the carbohydrates from hitting the person's digestive system too fast. It slows down the rate of carb absorption. But poor Anti-Arnold does not know this. Besides, if he did know--so what. The whole premise of bodybuilding is to go into the gym, knock yourself out for 20 minutes, and then consume a high protein, high carbohydrate diet. A high protein, low carbohydrate diet will not do it. Poor Anti-Arnold--he has gotten himself into a real metabolic energy-defunct state, and now he's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't. What a dilemna! The catabolic processes associated with the anabolic muscle of Anti-Arnold are i) making him ill, and ii) preventing him from advancing any more into his physique. Can you imagine what will happen to this poor lad if he attempts to take steroids? Steroids help to build muscle by increasing the nitrogen balance of the muscle cell (Anabolic Reference Guide, ed. 6, p. 6 Bill Phillips). But not only will the anabolic facet of his metabolism grow, but also the catabolic/oxidative facet of his metabolism. His metabolism will become so super-accelerated that he will be really ill. This new level of catabolism will block Anti-Arnold from making any more gains to his physique. His muscles will get a little bigger, bulkier, and fuller, but he will probably not make any more new gains, and would be too ill to train anyway. He may have the potential to be Mr. Olympia, but the energy processing of the cells is not condusive to be Mr. Olympia, and when he takes steroids, the added catabolism of his muscle cells trying to grow will prevent other cell's from growing. Anti-Arnold can kiss his ass good-bye. Sure, he can try to eat more carbs to counterattack the effects of an escalating BMR, but he will just feel more sick. Anabolic steroids should be renamed to anabolic/catabolic steroids because they make the catabolic facet of your metabolism grow too. Another one of your questions: If Anti-Arnold has a super-accelerated metabolism, should he now be ripped to be the bone? Should he not have a real small bodyfat percentage? The answer: Not necessarily. He could be even fatter. Let us look at a hyperthyroid person, an indiviual with a very fast cellular oxidation rate in his cells. Is he fat or thin? The answer is most likely, the person is much thinner. But he can become fatter. How? A hyperthyroid person has lean muscle mass that shrinks. Since the muscle factories are shutting down, the overall metabolism of the body is decreasing even though each cell now has a high cellular oxidation rate. The person may just lie around the house all day and eat more food. His lean muscle mass has shrunk, but his bodyfat has increased. Bodyfat also depends, among other things, on whether you have fat cells or not. Not just the metabolic rate. Consider a hypothyroid individual. His cellular oxidation rate has decreased dramatically, and he may get fatter. But some individualsget thinner or stay the same. If you have no fat cells, you will not get that much fatter. And hypothyroid people tend not to eat much food because they have lost their natural hunger. So we can say that any person with any cellular oxidation rate in their cells can be either fat or thin. Now, back to Anti-Arnold. Even though he is euthyroid, he has now increased the cellular oxidation rate of his cell's by magnifying the natural cellular oxidation rate that was already there to begin with. His BMR is skyrocketing because his natural energy reserves are being depleted by high metabolic maintenance hypertrophied muscle cells. In desperation, he is eating to fuel his workouts, and keep himself in equilibrium. He is suffering from stress symptoms, but he is much fatter than before. The BMR of his body is now being influenced--being acted upon--by two opposing forces. And no one seems to understand this. One of the symptoms of stress is lethargy. But one of the symptoms of being very fat is also lethargy. Everyone comes along and says, "Hey buddy, the reason you feel lethargic is that you are too fat. Reduce." No. Anti-Arnold's naked (ie without the bodyfat surrounding them) hypertrophied muscle cells are making his overall BMR go up. The increasing mantle of fat on his body is acting to pull his BMR down. Fat is an energy source. It make not look nice around your hips or your stomach, but it is still an energy source. (That is why Dr. M. DiPasquale had created the highfat bodybuilding diet. Some of the bodybuilders did not like it, but I guess his reasoning was that lots of fat in your diet is good because fat contains energy--even though it may be disgusting to eat.) Hell, I do not know his reasoning exactly. Phone him up and ask him yourself if you want what his reasons were for a high fat diet. The naked muscle cells are making your BMR go up, but the fat is pulling the BMR back down. The final or net direction of your BMR will be to go up. Your muscle cells are making your BMR go up more than yourbodyfat level can pull it back down. Net effect: BMR still goes up!! Anytime you walk into the gym to hypertrophy your muscle cells, your BMR is going to go up. Nowhere am I saying that being fat accelerates your metabolism. I am confirming what people already know: that bodyfat brings your BMR down. But people get confused when they see a fat person. A fat person can have a lot of fat on his body, but his accelerated metabolism through bodybuilding is burning that fat off at a very fast rate. It is not so much the amount of fat on a body that counts as the rate at which that fat is burned off. This does not conflict with the fact that as fat is stripped off a person, his BMR will also get higher. Well, Anti-Arnold goes to a doctor now. It is only right. He is ill so he naturally requires an explanation as to what is going on. The doctor will do a blood test instead of checking the basal metabolic rate. Medicine does not realize that the person's cellular oxidation rate is "flawed" for building stress-symptom free muscle mass. Here is medicine's own reasons as to why they adopted the blood test over the basal metabolic rate test: since the metabolic rate is influenced by the hormones of the thyroid gland, physcians have in recent years have tended to diagnose metabolic disorders with tests that measure the blood levels of thyroid hormones (Collier's Encylopedia CD-Rom) What has the free thyroid hormone concentration got to do with the problem? We have seen that two individuals with the same blood test results, the same normal free thyroid hormone concentrations, can have two different cellular oxidation rates! We have not just inferred it. It has been told to us previously. The free thyroid hormone concentration is just a small component of a much bigger whole: the cellular oxidation rate--whatever it is. Medicine will tell you to take it easy, make give you hypertensives for the associated hypertension, but that does not solve the problem. That did not give Anti-Arnold the reason as to what was going on. Anti-Arnold, you see, is not as knowledgeable as yourself and myself. Anti-Arnold does not know that his metabolism is out of kilter. He just knows that he keeps getting ill when he gets bigger. Medcine has adopted a twisted outview. Medicine's recent view now: since the patient says that he has a metabolic disorder, but his thyroid hormone levels (and his other blood constituents are fine), then the patient must be emotionally unstable or making it up in his mind. The fact that you are a bodybuilder, are commited to developing big muscles does not win you a medal with the real world. The real world thinks that you are from some weird subculture of freaks, or I have even heard such ghastly ignorant comments as "all bodybuilders are homosexuals". The doctor will start to physco-analyze you as to why you do this, and since the Anti-Arnold says that he is suffering from a metabolic disorder when the blood levels of hormones are fine, the doctor may suggest going to talk to a physciatrist. Here is a quote. A thyroid author is talking about people who say they have a metabolic disequilibrium even though there is no evidence of thyroid malfunction. "Many patients exhibiting these symptoms seek out or are refer to endocrinologists when they don't have thyroid disease at all. In these cases, they really are suffering from a psychiatric illness. (The Thyroid Sourcebook, M. Sara Rosenthal, p.26) Gee whiz. Thanks. That pretty well sums it up. Anti-Arnold has developed a super-metabolism from bodybuilding, training, and diet through no fault of his own. Since Anti-Arnold does not have a hyperthyroid, he is then sent to a phsyciatrist for telling the truth. I'm sorry, but medicine trains all its doctors to think like that. When this happens to your son from bodybuilding, all of you will remember that A. Wilson tried to tell you first. Not the scientists, the muscle magazines, not the doctors. All of these quotes are from their work, but they will never see that. They are too busy being haughty, prideful and egotistical. Instead of joining their minds to work together, the three groups continually fight each other. I tried to write all of them and tell them. Would not listen. I have all the rejection letters. I will not try to tell them again. In closing, there are two main methods of measuring the body's basal metabolic rate. As the basal metabolic rate rises, the heat production of the body rises, the requirement for oxygen or consumption of oxygen increases, and the production of carbon dioxide rises. You will note that we said that Anti-Arnold had a very high BMR. You will also note that among one of his symptoms that he was suffering, Anti-Arnold was suffering from a burning/flushed face and/or ears. Calorimetry can measure this. Direct Calorimetry involves taking Anti-Arnold to a chamber the size of a small room. This chamber is called a calorimeter. The chamber is insulated so no heat gets in or out. Through pipes in the wall and ceiling, water at a given temperature is circulated. This is circulated over the subject, Anti-Arnold, and the heat that Anti-Arnold is producing from his body is absorbed by the water. The researcher can then measure how much the temperature of the water changed by, and calculate in Calories how much heat Ant-Arnold's body is producing. This will give an indication of the resting BMR of the subject, and so demonstrate that the euthyroid indivividual's BMR is higher and more in stress. The blood test does not show this. The second method is indirect calorimetry. It usually involves testing the consumption of oxygen by the body with an apparatus called a Benedict-Roth bell-shaped spirometer apparatus. The consumption of a certain quantity of oxygen by the body when it burns a given foodstuff or mixture of foods always corresponds to the production of a certain quantity of heat. We ought--to make it interesting--to predict that the paltry muscle that Anti-Arnold has managed to hypertrophy is generating a far more higher level of oxidative catabolism than Mr. Olympia, Dorian Yates. And we all know how damn big Mr. Yates has gotten. Anti-Arnold vs. Dorian Yates. Mr. Yates wins on size--the anabolic facet. Anti-Arnold wins on oxidative metabolism--the catabolic facet. His BMR is higher than Big Dorian's. Anybody want to ask Mr. Yates to step into a direct calorimetry chamber to check? (Do I look suicidal? ) ![]() But medicine could not bother to accomodate Anti-Arnold because medicine is too busy catering to the needs of "normal, regular" people to realize that Anti-Arnold is a person too, even though he is doing something in life that is not mainstream. One more time for the reasons why Medicine has thrown away the BMR tests and adopted the blood tests: Useful as it was in those days, [the calorimetry tests] were imprecise because the consumption of oxygen was influenced by additional factors other than the amount of thyroid hormone secreted. That's not my words, folks. (That is the words of the pages of the book called THYROID DISEASE: THE FACTS that I photocopied, a book written by a medical doctor.) I would say that the enlargement of the fast twitch white muscle fibre cells through bodybuilding is a pretty DAMN BIG ADDITIONAL FACTOR! Wouldn't you? But medicine does not see that. They just keep getting caught up in this vortex that all metabolic problems are caused by the lack or abundance of thyroid hormone. Medicine is what you call BODYBUILDER-DISCRIMINATORS; medicine is BODYBUILDER-RACIST. ![]() And, as we have seen in the Anti-Arnold's case, assumptions get you ill. Or dead. There is so much to say about setting up the right conditions to create more Anti-Arnold's for verification and confirmation in your own minds that what has been said is more accurate, a more global picture. Question: why have you never heard of illness before? The answer is simple. There are people in the gym who unfortunately in this information age, come to the gym, work out hard, and go home and eat some carbs. They eat 30 grams of protein per day and drink say 4 glasses of water a day. For muscle growth to work, training is good, but you have to have the right diet. 4 - 6 substantial carb meals a day, a minimum of 70 grams of high biological value (BV) protein, and at least 8 glasses of water a day. You have to do everything right, and then if your cellular oxidation rate is "the only flaw left", you will find out firsthand what I have been saying. If your muscles are in a negative nitrogen balance because you are eating 30 grams of protein a day, where do you think your training is going to take you? If you are a person eating 30 grams of protein per day and you have big, big muscles, more power to you. But you are the exception, not the rule. May God bless you. Take care. Peace. A. Wilson, awilson1@netcom.ca Last edited by crapulous; 04-18-2004 at 06:07 PM. |
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