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I just read the MGF sticky and it suggests using it with IGF. But, lets say you're doing a cycle of 1000mg test e and 400mg tren e / week along with MGF would then adding IGF really be needed? I was thinking of doing IGF w/ the tren/test but now I'm thinking of doing MGF instead. I would do both I'm not sure it's needed and it would save me like $300 since MGF is 1/2 the price of IGF. So, questions:
Would MGF really add a decent or at least noticable difference in that tren/test cycle as opposed to doing the cycle alone? How would that compare to doing the cycle with IGF instead of MGF.
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I never tried MGF since its so new. I only heard of it within the last 1 1/2 years. Not much info out there at all on it.
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I don't have much time at the moment but I'll try and fill in some info on this tomorrow.

But in a nutshell... MGF is simply a type of IGF-1.

The type of IGF-1 that everyone thinks of when talking about IGF is actually IGF-1Ea... MGF is IGF-1Ec.

The basic difference between the 2 types is Ea is expressed through the liver and goes systemic. Ec is expressed locally as a result of mechanical overload of the muscle cells. That's just a fancy way of saying the muscle has been worked hard... ie: weight training.

And of course when I talk about IGF-1 that we BB's use, of course I'm referring to LR3IGF-1. Which is no different than our natural IGF-1 except it has an additional 13 amino acids added to it which drastically increase its half life. Similar to an Enanthate ester added to a testosterone molecule.

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I don't have much time at the moment but I'll try and fill in some info on this tomorrow.

But in a nutshell... MGF is simply a type of IGF-1.

The type of IGF-1 that everyone thinks of when talking about IGF is actually IGF-1Ea... MGF is IGF-1Ec.

The basic difference between the 2 types is Ea is expressed through the liver and goes systemic. Ec is expressed locally as a result of mechanical overload of the muscle cells. That's just a fancy way of saying the muscle has been worked hard... ie: weight training.

And of course when I talk about IGF-1 that we BB's use, of course I'm referring to LR3IGF-1. Which is no different than our natural IGF-1 except it has an additional 13 amino acids added to it which drastically increase its half life. Similar to an Enanthate ester added to a testosterone molecule.

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Yea, I've heard that if you've tried IGF you've already taken MGF and not even known it. I guess the simple question is if you had to pick one which one would be the best to use in a mass cycle?
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I did some reading and decided to do MGF w/ the cycle.
My idea is to inject 125mcg in both bis/delts (250mcg total) 2x a week 24 hours before I work them. Like sunday night: delt injection / wends night: bi injection & monday delt workout / thurs bi workout. And do this for 1 month.
Thing is I don't know ifI should split the dosage in to two more injections and inject in front and rear delt and both heads of the biceps.......
EDIT: this is PEG MGF btw.
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I did some reading and decided to do MGF w/ the cycle.
My idea is to inject 125mcg in both bis/delts (250mcg total) 2x a week 24 hours before I work them. Like sunday night: delt injection / wends night: bi injection & monday delt workout / thurs bi workout. And do this for 1 month.
Thing is I don't know ifI should split the dosage in to two more injections and inject in front and rear delt and both heads of the biceps.......
EDIT: this is PEG MGF btw.
2 injects 2 times a week is fine, don't believe the hype saying it will make whatever muscle you inject it in grow. I'm interested to see your results because I been on Igf for a month now, and results were very good the first 2-3 weeks but slowly week by week disappearing. I have about 12 days left and I'm done with a 40 igf run. I heard results good the 1st month then fizzle away. And it seems true what I have heard.
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When they say you inject in the muscle you want to improve(for IGF,MGF),this is done subcutaneously or IM?
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When they say you inject in the muscle you want to improve(for IGF,MGF),this is done subcutaneously or IM?
Intramuscular.
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So, for MGF it's "temp sensitive" so when you get it what do you do w/ it? Just put it in the frigg untill you use some of it?
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So, for MGF it's "temp sensitive" so when you get it what do you do w/ it? Just put it in the frigg untill you use some of it?
Only after you reconstitute it do you put it in the fridge. Otherwise you can keep it id a drawer, closet etc.
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My understanding is real research labs keep the unreconstituted peptides in a refrigerator. Absolutely after reconstitution they must be kept in the fridge.

Those of you asking about specific muscles in which to inject... there is absolutely no mechanism by which what you inject can stay in that specific muscle and give some sort of site specific enhancement. You might as well be wishing for Santa Claus to bring you some toys. It's just not going to happen.

You're certainly welcome to inject anywhere you want, it's done with a slin pin IM, but thinking you're doing something special for that muscle, you're just fooling yourself.

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My understanding is real research labs keep the unreconstituted peptides in a refrigerator. Absolutely after reconstitution they must be kept in the fridge.

Those of you asking about specific muscles in which to inject... there is absolutely no mechanism by which what you inject can stay in that specific muscle and give some sort of site specific enhancement. You might as well be wishing for Santa Claus to bring you some toys. It's just not going to happen.

You're certainly welcome to inject anywhere you want, it's done with a slin pin IM, but thinking you're doing something special for that muscle, you're just fooling yourself.

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That goes for all types of MGF or anything you inject IM?
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My understanding is real research labs keep the unreconstituted peptides in a refrigerator. Absolutely after reconstitution they must be kept in the fridge.

Those of you asking about specific muscles in which to inject... there is absolutely no mechanism by which what you inject can stay in that specific muscle and give some sort of site specific enhancement. You might as well be wishing for Santa Claus to bring you some toys. It's just not going to happen.

You're certainly welcome to inject anywhere you want, it's done with a slin pin IM, but thinking you're doing something special for that muscle, you're just fooling yourself.

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Now whats this stuff about Santa Claws , he always brings me toys on Christmas.
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My understanding is real research labs keep the unreconstituted peptides in a refrigerator. Absolutely after reconstitution they must be kept in the fridge.

Those of you asking about specific muscles in which to inject... there is absolutely no mechanism by which what you inject can stay in that specific muscle and give some sort of site specific enhancement. You might as well be wishing for Santa Claus to bring you some toys. It's just not going to happen.

You're certainly welcome to inject anywhere you want, it's done with a slin pin IM, but thinking you're doing something special for that muscle, you're just fooling yourself.

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Aren't you supposed to inject somewhere in the muscle specificly so as to avoid hitting nerves?
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