My Cycle - Newbie, advice welcome

[troublesome_7]

OK after reading post's and threads on this forum and reading up info etc i came to this conclusion:

10 weeks of Sustanon at 500mg every week
5 weeks of Dianabols and 5 tabs a day - 25mg a day with weekends off so i can give time for my liver to process them

PCT

500IU's every day for 10 days of nolvadex as because im a newbie
Clomid - i am unsure atm would like advice but am thinking 50mg ed for 2 weeks? does this sound right?

A few last questions:
Should i take some sort of liver tablets when im on the DB's?
with the PCT is that all i have to do so i don't get tits and small balls?
Do you have to inject Clomid and Nolvadex or are they available in tablet form?
Any other advice would be appreciated
Cheers

[Srachi]

500 ui of nalvadex?probaly you confuse it,nolvadex dosent come in u.i.And clomid and nolva arent in injectable forms.

[PUMPED101]

you need to do a lot more research....

1. DO NOT INJECT LIQUID CLOMID OR LIQUID NOLVADEX...they are meant to be taken orally...via a dropper in your mouth

2. why would you take weekends off from d-bol makes no sense...stay on straight 25 mgs ed for 4 weeks

3. what is this 500 ius of nolvadex mean...you realy have no clue what you are talkin about.... .5 ml of nolvadex maybe..so 20 mgs of nolva

DO A SEARCH on PCT....you need to do some more hw pal

READ READ READ....you are going to end up killing yourself by just jumping into things

[troublesome_7]

ok then i think i got confused
so can anyone verify how much nolvadex and clomid i should take, or what would be recommended?

Pumped101 yes i don't know shit about this but thats why i am asking these questions before i end up killing myself

with DB's i read somewhere that you can take weekends off so you can give your liver time to process the steroid and by the start of the week you start fresh again, apperently you dont have to take liver tablets this way and you dont loose the effect of the drug, correct me if im wrong.... much to learn

[Bod]

Pumped101's post is spot on, you need to do a lot more homework before starting a cycle. PCT won't stop you getting tits and small balls, that happens during the cycle not after. The 'P' in PCT stands for 'post'

I personally wouldn't recommend the dbol for a first cycle anyway, I'd just run the sust for 10 weeks, then 10 days after your last shot, use 40mgs of nolvadex for 2 weeks, then 20mgs for 2 weeks. simple.

If you do run this cycle, although no real proof, a lot of people use milk thistle when using orals such as dbol to help cleanse the liver.

[troublesome_7]

do you recommend "Clomid" ?

[unt0ld]

theres no point in taking weekends off from a steroid that has a half life of a few hours. That would be stupid.

[Big_paul]

The test looks good bro. Use the dbol ed. Do some more research on hcg and clomid. good luck

[FTT010101]

Here is what you should do


500mg test ... biweekly 250mg injects

50mg Dbol ED

20-40mg Nolva ED *(depending on how estrogen sensative you are)

fuck the clomid

if you are really really estrogen sensative then get somthing like femara and take 1.25mg ED... max dose per day (and its overkill for a male) would be 2.5mg ED.


if you want to do a 10 week cycle thats fine... I never do one shorter than 12 personaly... but whatever, its you... not me

If thats the case, then run the Dbol for 6 weeks instead of 5... hell id take it all 10 but again... you not me (your liver will recover... just take lots of milk thistle durring and for about 4 weeks after your cycle). I would frontload the Test at about 1g for the first week... then drop down to 500mg every week for the remaining 9 weeks...





other than that, Eat, Train, Sleep, Repeat

FTT

[solo47]

Originally Posted by troublesome_7

with the PCT is that all i have to do so i don't get tits and small balls?

Jeez, you talk like there's something wrong with tits & small balls. Why I knew a tranny in Portland once that... Oh never mind.

Solo

[swelty]

1-10 sust 500 ew
1-4 dbol 40 mg ed no wknd off
nolva take as needed for ant-e(so you dont get bitch tits).
wk 13 pct clomid or hcg