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Hey guys I just ran my most complex cycle to date but the next one I am running is going to one up it for sure and I Just though I would see what you guys would have to say to help me out
here is the cycle:

M1T 50 mg/ED 3 weeks on, three weeks off
Test Prop 75mg ED for 15 weeks
Tren Ace 50mg ED for ten weeks
IGF-1 (R3) 60mcg per day 5 days on 2 off

post cycle:
HCG during whole cycle
clomid 150,150,100,100,50,50
Nolva 60,60,40,40,20,20
Primordial Performance Test recovery stack (love this stuff)

What I really need some opinions on is the IGF-1 should I run post cycle or durning

an my stats are 6`3, 210Lbs, BF 7% previous cycles 3
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i do not suggest m1t..its real real hard for liver.

go get some winstrol for 6-8 weeks too with 50mg a day...

hcg for all cycle is not good!!!!!!!!!!! take it only for pct.. for 3 weeks like 2 x 2500iu a week...so you need 15.000iu
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Hey guys I just ran my most complex cycle to date but the next one I am running is going to one up it for sure and I Just though I would see what you guys would have to say to help me out
here is the cycle:

M1T 50 mg/ED 3 weeks on, three weeks off
Test Prop 75mg ED for 15 weeks
Tren Ace 50mg ED for ten weeks
IGF-1 (R3) 60mcg per day 5 days on 2 off

post cycle:
HCG during whole cycle
clomid 150,150,100,100,50,50
Nolva 60,60,40,40,20,20
Primordial Performance Test recovery stack (love this stuff)

What I really need some opinions on is the IGF-1 should I run post cycle or durning

an my stats are 6`3, 210Lbs, BF 7% previous cycles 3
Run on cycle...stacks well with a Test, and a Nandrolone...and I'm not sure Peanutbutters reason for telling you hCG is not good while on cycle...just don't agree with that statement.

P.B., no disrespect bro, but why do you feel this way??
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you need hcg for end for your balls...i talk with almost all IFBB pro BB trainers..nobody say hcg is ok for during cycle..they know what they talk..they prepare a lot of guys all over the world.

if you start to add hcg after cycle you can see how sperm got better in few days..and you become horny again
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you need hcg for end for your balls...i talk with almost all IFBB pro BB trainers..nobody say hcg is ok for during cycle..they know what they talk..they prepare a lot of guys all over the world.

if you start to add hcg after cycle you can see how sperm got better in few days..and you become horny again
I'm well aware of the "kick start" aspect of hCG, but why have to start nuts again when hCG helps

keep them alive if used on cycle...I have read nothing saying hCG stunts gains...Before hCG was

the "hot item" many Pros used 50mg Clomid e.d. during heavy cycles to keep t.a. to a minimum.
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i know few pros they NEVER touch clomids..they all say its sucks stuff,hahahah
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i know few pros they NEVER touch clomids..they all say its sucks stuff,hahahah
I said USED to...but you still didn't answer the question...what is so wrong with using hCG during a cycle? What is the downside?
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Default Re: my most complex cycle advice needed

Awesome thanks for the advice I think ill run the HCG during I did it for my last cycle and it worked pretty nice but you said the IGF stacks well with Deca so do you think I should switch out the tren for it or will the tren be okay.
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Awesome thanks for the advice I think ill run the HCG during I did it for my last cycle and it worked pretty nice but you said the IGF stacks well with Deca so do you think I should switch out the tren for it or will the tren be okay.
It looks like you're going for shorter esters here with the Test Prop, and Tren Ace...Deca is a slow
release, so I would stay with the plan you have, it looks good. You are breaking the "norm" as

far as cycles go...I like the look of it. P.B. still couldn't give me the answer as to why he told you

not to run hCG during cycle. It in no way hurts your cycle...doesn't interfere with gains (to
my knowledge) just keeps the boys plump, ya know?!!

Will you be "site injecting" the IGF?...I've never used it, but read it can be injected into the muscle group you worked right after your workout. I assume with a large carb intake.
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I am wondering why you are not using the tren 12-15 weeks??? And yes,use hcg along the way.The longer you cycle in my opinion the longer it takes to recover.My advice is at any time during end of cycle the gains quit coming or really slow down I would jump off cycle..
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