Is my next cycle good enough

[Jizzmaster]

I have only taken two cycles as yet. The first with Deca weekly. Good gains and the second with deca and sust. Poor gains. I need good information for my next cycle. I'm thinking about taking deca 400 mg every week and sust 250 eod. Has anybody done this before? How are the gains? Do I need clomid/HCG/Nolvadex? In what dosages shall I take them and for how long? Is being a hardgainer something to take into consideration in means of protein/carb intake. Maybe I need to buy a really good book on this subject.

[JonTest]

Originally Posted by Jizzmaster

I have only taken two cycles as yet. The first with Deca weekly. Good gains and the second with deca and sust. Poor gains. I need good information for my next cycle. I'm thinking about taking deca 400 mg every week and sust 250 eod. Has anybody done this before? How are the gains? Do I need clomid/HCG/Nolvadex? In what dosages shall I take them and for how long? Is being a hardgainer something to take into consideration in means of protein/carb intake. Maybe I need to buy a really good book on this subject.

yeah you should take your last suggestion and read a bunch....

[lonewolf36]

No gains on sust? hmm...should have gains if calories/protein/carbs/train hard.

But, I agree, you need to read lots more. Especially if you don't know the general profiles/actions of each AS, and nothing about PCT(Post Cycle Therapy), ie clomid, nolvadex, hcg,. Do keyword searches here on Meso, as well as other boards, and keep asking for good, sound advice when you are not sure of something. IMO, learn all you can before doing anymore cycles. You don't want to hurt yourself.

[rjx]

Whoa you need to take a break from AAS and do more research!

I think the 2nd cycle was shit cause you probably didn't up your calorie intake from the last cycle? U got bigger, so the same amount of calories wouldn't do much of anything except maintain what you already had.

Being a hardgainer you need to eat as much as possible. Every 90 min would be great!

[Deacon]

and I would avoid sus for a second cycle - get some test enth or cyp if you are going to run deca with it - the longer esters work better with deca than sus where half of it is short ester and leaving your system to quickly. Sus IMO needs to be shot at least 3 times per week to be useful and 4 would be even better.

[ramboj70]

Originally Posted by Jizzmaster

I have only taken two cycles as yet. The first with Deca weekly. Good gains and the second with deca and sust. Poor gains. I need good information for my next cycle. I'm thinking about taking deca 400 mg every week and sust 250 eod. Has anybody done this before? How are the gains? Do I need clomid/HCG/Nolvadex? In what dosages shall I take them and for how long? Is being a hardgainer something to take into consideration in means of protein/carb intake. Maybe I need to buy a really good book on this subject.

I know your going to do what you want, so here you go, post your stats, height weight, etc, run the cycle for 13 wks sust EOD dec 400mg wk is fine 2 shots week mon - thur for deca and sust mon wed fri make sure you drink atleast 1.5 gal water ED and eat like a fucking horse none stop, and yes you do need to take clomid keep novadex on hand for gyno symptons dec will make you hold water like a fire engine, but if I were you I would read lots more before I do this cycle or any cycle, it is important to know as much as you can bro, if you do the cycle use all clean pins, god luck keep us posted

[jocko]

u will blow up