My next cycle, please critique.

[GeaR_and_SauCe]

my cycle currently looks like this but i may swap out the deca for eq:

weeks 1-15: 750mg test enanthate (may frontload 1g/w for the first two)
weeks 1-10: 300mg deca
weeks 1-5: 40mg dbol/day
weeks 10-15: 50mg winny/day
weeks 3-8: 50mcg igf/day

PCT with clomid/hcg/nolva/igf when finished.

My problem with deca is that its hard to recover from. The lack of sex drive for weeks or possibly months after being off is something that I don't like. However, I do love deca's muscle building capabilites. I may swap it out for something like 600mg eq from 1-15. LMK what you think.

[MANWHORE]

Well there are about a million ways to switch that up,but i like it. ..

[Bigkarch]

the test/deca/dbol is fine..a great bulker, but you need dex or letro..drop the winny and igf..stop the deca two to three weeks before the test and make sure your pct is good to go...other than that...its a great cycle if you know how to eat and train..

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by legal eagle

the test/deca/dbol is fine..a great bulker, but you need dex or letro..drop the winny and igf..stop the deca two to three weeks before the test and make sure your pct is good to go...other than that...its a great cycle if you know how to eat and train..

Why drop the IGF? I think that would be a great add in to any cycle ... Also,if you don't know how to eat,you have bigger problems. .. Put the food in your mouth,CHEW and repeat .. It's not hard .. OK let me go get my laundry.

[ccriderss]

looks like a great cycle... to me i would increase the deca to 400 or 500 and i would also stay on it until week 13... i would drop the winny and the igf.... igf is awaste as this point because your igf production will already be increased....

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by ccriderss

looks like a great cycle... to me i would increase the deca to 400 or 500 and i would also stay on it until week 13... i would drop the winny and the igf.... igf is awaste as this point because your igf production will already be increased....

Yes i would run the Deca longer but,as far as the IGF,i always think the more the better. PLus the AAS isn't going to increase IGF as much as when supplimenting with pure IGF and even less when using Anti-Es. I say keep the IGF,because it sure as hell won't hurt. OK ENOUGH he's keeping the IGF in. End of story

[GeaR_and_SauCe]

IGF is great stuff and there is no way I'm dropping it. Muscle growth is caused by interactions involving IGF and nitrogen. In my opinion, AAS causing positive nitrogen balance and the IGF is there to recruit the sat. cells. This, in my opinion, would make the best conditions for adding muscle.

I'm using the winny at the end because I've noticed that doing this helps to make me nice and solid before I come off and also seems to help me keep my gains. I've only done it once before but it was the best cycle I've done.

[Bigkarch]

personally, I doubt you will see a difference in size or strength if you add igf, with the combo you have...

[Deacon]

I agree that with that combo IGF really wont be much of a factor - you may want to consider running it after the cycle to help keep gains though

[Bigkarch]

Originally Posted by Deacon

I agree that with that combo IGF really wont be much of a factor - you may want to consider running it after the cycle to help keep gains though

a big bump..I would run it to keep gains

[Deacon]

yes - many dont undersatand this concept but IGF works great for this purpose

[Blue09]

Originally Posted by Deacon

yes - many dont undersatand this concept but IGF works great for this purpose

Yep, IGF and/or slin used in PCT is a great way to solidify gains.