My Second Cycle for your Bashing

[rpmjr19]

This is what I have put together for my second cycle, starting sometime in May or June, possibly July


Weeks 1-10, Test E 500mg, Weeks 11-12 Test E 300mg
Weeks 1-10 EQ 500mg, Weeks 11-12 EQ 300mg
.25mg Arimidex EOD
Weeks 1-4 Tbol, 40mg/day
Weeks 8-12 Winny 25-50mg/day

PCT of Nolva, 40/40/20/20/20/20/10/5 mg/day

My first cycle was Test E, 500mg/week for 8 weeks

Current stats:
22yo
5'10"
195lbs
roughly 13%bf

Only one previous cycle
going on 5 years training
diet is in check

I want this to be a lean bulker, with a type of cutter the last 4 weeks

my questions for you guys:

should I include HCG?
should I only run the Test and EQ for 10 weeks, not 12?
should I cut out the EQ a week before the Test?
Should I ditch the Winny at the end?
Should I consider another steroid besides EQ?.. deca? tren?
Is it pointless to drop the dose of Test and EQ the last 2 weeks?

attack it guys

[jsupstarz]

Im not gonna bash your cycle but Test Enanthate is self tapering you know. You don't have to taper it. And I wouldn't as much eq as your test.Oh and I wouldn't use the winny it is only #2 cycle.. Just eq.And your doing the infamous cutabulker cycle!

[rpmjr19]

Originally Posted by jsupstarz

Im not gonna bash your cycle but Test Enanthate is self tapering you know. You don't have to taper it. And I wouldn't as much eq as your test.Oh and I wouldn't use the winny. Just eq. and What is your goal for this cycle?

I wasn't going to run more EQ than Test, 500mg each

goal is to gain about 15 solid pounds of lean mass and drop a little bodyfat

[jsupstarz]

I fixed my post. jeez your quick

[rpmjr19]

Originally Posted by jsupstarz

I fixed my post. jeez your quick

haha yea I'm pretty bored so I'm just lookin at all the threads

[HDH]

It's a lot of drugs but the total mg per week isn't outrageous.
Why the taper?
Gaining and loosing, not that easy.
Probably a good idea to pick one or the other.
What is your diet going to look like?

HDH

[deathgrip07]

I don't have too much experience, but I have taken Tbol (I assume that's Oral Turinabol), and I don't think 4 weeks is enough to make a difference. When I took it, It took nearly 3 weeks just to kick in, and my dose was higher. Maybe someone can offer a better option on the frontload portion of your cycle.

[rpmjr19]

Originally Posted by HDH

It's a lot of drugs but the total mg per week isn't outrageous.
Why the taper?
Gaining and loosing, not that easy.
Probably a good idea to pick one or the other.
What is your diet going to look like?

HDH

3000-3500 cals/day
175-225g protein/day
200-300g carbs/day
80-100 total g fat, about 25sat g
Chicken, Rice, Turkey, Pasta, Wheat bread, Fruit, Veggies, Protein Shakes

[jsupstarz]

You gotta up your protein intake and watch your carbs if you want to lean out. Unless you weigh 115lbs.

[Ironhorse]

Dont forget, your protein intake should be at least 1.5 grams per lb of your current body weight. That would make it at least 292.5 grams daily.

[jsupstarz]

Yeah 1.5 minimum, plus even for cutting it is essential to have a high protein intake. Some people just eat less food and the suffer in the long run. Make it a science.

[dennis]

Originally Posted by rpmjr19

This is what I have put together for my second cycle, starting sometime in May or June, possibly July


Weeks 1-10, Test E 500mg, Weeks 11-12 Test E 300mg keep using 500 mgs per week all the way through....switch to prop for the 2 weeks waiting period from last shot of enth to the pct..just quit the prop 2-3 days before the pct starts.
Weeks 1-10 EQ 500mg, Weeks 11-12 EQ 300mg run your eq at 400 mgs
.25mg Arimidex EOD hard to cut those little pills into 1/4's !
Weeks 1-4 Tbol, 40mg/day
Weeks 8-12 Winny 25-50mg/day 50 mgs ed

PCT of Nolva, 40/40/20/20/20/20/10/5 mg/day

My first cycle was Test E, 500mg/week for 8 weeks

Current stats:
22yo
5'10"
195lbs
roughly 13%bf

Only one previous cycle
going on 5 years training
diet is in check

I want this to be a lean bulker, with a type of cutter the last 4 weeks

my questions for you guys:

should I include HCG? YES !
should I only run the Test and EQ for 10 weeks, not 12? go 12
should I cut out the EQ a week before the Test? no
Should I ditch the Winny at the end? no
Should I consider another steroid besides EQ?.. deca? tren? not deca for sure....tren maybe but the eq is fine.
Is it pointless to drop the dose of Test and EQ the last 2 weeks?yes

attack it guys

Do not lower the doses of enth or eq the last 2 weeks.
Use test prop for weeks 12-14.
Run your eq at 400 mgs.
hard to cut those adex into 1/4's !
Winstrol 50 mgs ed.weeks 8-14
pct looks good.
yes use hcg !
go 12 weeks.
end eq at the same time you end the enth.
NO DECA ! only option would be tren.

[jsupstarz]

Originally Posted by dennis

Do not lower the doses of enth or eq the last 2 weeks.
Use test prop for weeks 12-14.
Run your eq at 400 mgs.
hard to cut those adex into 1/4's !
Winstrol 50 mgs ed.weeks 8-14
pct looks good.
yes use hcg !
go 12 weeks.
end eq at the same time you end the enth.
NO DECA ! only option would be tren.

PROP/Test E/Winny/EQ/HCG/ADEX I don't know dennis ? Do ya really think the winny is necessary, or prop with cycle #2, I hate to see what your 3rd cycle is going to be Just kidding. I wouldn't use all the stuff for your goal but it won't kill you..............in the next month