natural anti-estrogen

[Sting9]

Im looking for a mild natural source of anti-estrogen to use whit androgel

vitex+zinc?
passiflora?

thanks!

[Neodavid]

Primrose oil works for me. Got itchy nips, started taking 2 with every meal, they went away within 2 days.

Originally Posted by Sting9

Im looking for a mild natural source of anti-estrogen to use whit androgel

vitex+zinc?
passiflora?

thanks!

[J.D.]

some people say chrysin works, also DIMM. I have tried chrysin myself, and didn't notice anything from it. Was still bloated and had itchy nips too.

[stat1951]

Originally Posted by Sting9

Im looking for a mild natural source of anti-estrogen to use whit androgel

vitex+zinc?
passiflora?

thanks!

Any luck with this situation?

I have heard that Chrysin is effective in the lab but is not effective in the body due to failure to pass intact thru the GI system. But have also heard that there are providers out there claiming to make available a "bioavailable" form of Chrysin.

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-130d.shtml ("Chrysin is being sold to bodybuilders by commercial supplement companies that do not know if their product is favorably modulating testosterone and estrogen levels in men. The Life Extension Foundation, on the other hand, has conducted studies to evaluate the effects of chrysin - combined with piperine to facilitate absorption - on aging men).

Not sure if that is legit or just hype....

Some other possibilities include:

Soy isaflavones -
http://www.geocities.com/bill3320/hormones.html

Natural progesterone transdermal cream - http://tsangenterprise.com/news75.htm

Just started on AndroGel myself (Dr's prescription doe to declining total testosterone levels). He doesn't have a clue about free testosterone or estrogen levels or DHT levels or estrogren/testosterone ratio etc so kind of researching around on my own also.

LRS