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so im on again, this cycle im running:

500mg tren e
600mg test e
35mg dbol ed for 5 weeks
18.75 mcg t-3 ed
.5mg adex eod
.5mg cabergolin e3d

ive been on for 4 weeks now, starting week 5 tomarrow, about the begining of week 4 (last week) my nips were incredibly sore and i noticed some small lumps forming, so i upped my adex dose to 1mg eod

bout to start week 5, and my nips r still sore, and lumps are still there and may be a little bigger, cant really tell

should i stick with the adex for another week see if things will get better, or switch over to nolva untill this gyno go away? what do u guys say about running both? i heard itll wreak havoc on cholesterol levels and im sure my ldl/hdl ratio is fucked right now anyway from the d and test

but hey, threw on 22 lbs in the past 4 weeks
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Are you sure your arimidex is legit?.You should not have this problem while taking it.Take nolva at 40mg a day until the itchiness and swelling go away then continue at 20mg a day through the rest of the cycle and for 6 to 8 weeks for PCT.


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ya, its a research chem from i b e nutrition (i know some of u guys hate them) but ive used thier stuff before and its worked great

what about as far as adex and nolva?
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Not exactly a vet here, but;
Do not switch to Nolvadex!!! Nolvadex increases Progesterone receptor sensitivity, which is probably what is causing your problems. How long ago did you up your arimidex doses, you should have ran .5mg ED from the beginning with 600mg test and the Dianabol. But anyway, you should definately switch over to Letrozole as soon as possible. The Letrozole is not only a stronger AI but is affects progesterone as well, which again probably be your problem, either way it will protect against estrogen better as well. I know that you are running Dostinex, but studies haven't been conclusive regarding the reducing in prolactin. Everything you are taking is right, just seems that either the dostinex AND/OR the arimidex is working like it should, so make a simple and effective switch to Letrozole.
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I also think that your problem come from the progesterone the hormone can cause bloating and gyno,like oestrogen. I'm not a vet but the only thing i am seeing here that can cause you gyno is the tren. Try to decrease a bit your amount of Tren or like THE BEAT said,try letrozole, this aromatase inhibitor can lower progesterone levels, and combat any progestenic sides

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would dropping the dbol asap help ? maybe even lower your dose of test for one week till your ai starts doing it's job ?Just a thought...hate to hear your having problems bro..keep me posted,,dennis
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You will want to start at 2.5mg a day. That is one dose and it is strong. At 2.5mg a day you might experience a loss of libido. It will dry you out but your gyno issue is priority at this point. Letro works for me when all else fails. When the soreness goes away you can lower the dose. 1.25mg EOD to E3D. I always keep it on the shelf. I still use nolva unless I start having problems.

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so im on again, this cycle im running:

500mg tren e
600mg test e
35mg dbol ed for 5 weeks
18.75 mcg t-3 ed
.5mg adex eod
.5mg cabergolin e3d

ive been on for 4 weeks now, starting week 5 tomarrow, about the begining of week 4 (last week) my nips were incredibly sore and i noticed some small lumps forming, so i upped my adex dose to 1mg eod

bout to start week 5, and my nips r still sore, and lumps are still there and may be a little bigger, cant really tell

should i stick with the adex for another week see if things will get better, or switch over to nolva untill this gyno go away? what do u guys say about running both? i heard itll wreak havoc on cholesterol levels and im sure my ldl/hdl ratio is fucked right now anyway from the d and test

but hey, threw on 22 lbs in the past 4 weeks
Are you only running this cycle 5 weeks or is that just the dbol?
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so im on again, this cycle im running:

500mg tren e
600mg test e
35mg dbol ed for 5 weeks
18.75 mcg t-3 ed
.5mg adex eod
.5mg cabergolin e3d

ive been on for 4 weeks now, starting week 5 tomarrow, about the begining of week 4 (last week) my nips were incredibly sore and i noticed some small lumps forming, so i upped my adex dose to 1mg eod

bout to start week 5, and my nips r still sore, and lumps are still there and may be a little bigger, cant really tell

should i stick with the adex for another week see if things will get better, or switch over to nolva untill this gyno go away? what do u guys say about running both? i heard itll wreak havoc on cholesterol levels and im sure my ldl/hdl ratio is fucked right now anyway from the d and test

but hey, threw on 22 lbs in the past 4 weeks
Well first of all arimidex is what is going to increase your LDL levels. Tamoxifen will actually be healthier for your cholesterol levels due to its binding effects in the liver. D-bol is definitely not a good drug to be on if you are concern about cholesterol levels one because of it's steriod profile but also because it is an alkylated oral.

With a cycle of 500mg Tren, 600mg of Test and 245mg of Dbol total per week- there is little wonder you are suffering from a bit of nipple soreness and perhaps puffiness. I would definitely start taking the Arimidex at 0.5 per day instead of every other day. Also I would consider taking some Mesterolone to combat the progesterone effects from Tren.
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