Steroid Forum: This is a discussion on Needing a bit of Tren advice within the Anabolic Steroids forums, part of the extensive steroid information at MESO-Rx; I am just about ready for a Tren Ace and Test E cycle (gear is starting to show up)...I have ...
I am just about ready for a Tren Ace and Test E cycle (gear is starting to show up)...I have not used Tren before and I want to give it a try...My plan is to start with 50mg Tren EOD and see how it goes...My question is, if I can't manage the sides of Tren, should I stop Tren, and start feathering in some Nolva and up my Test (from 500mg), or just stop the Tren and keep on truckin' with the Test alone at 500mg...I had planned on running Test E for 11 or 12 weeks, and Tren Ace for 8 weeks .I obviously will have Clomid and Nolva on hand...Thanks so much in advance!....I am 40 and will be trying for lean,dry mass gains, with a minimum of water bloat or puffiness...Maybe my hair won't fall out in clumps
ace has a short half life, u can run it the full 12 weeks no problem
as far as sides go, theyre not that bad, im running 500mg tren e right now, got a lil acne and oilier skin thats about it, imo the sides r well worth the massive pumps and strength gains
hair loss is based on genetics, some get it, some dont, take a look at the males on your mothers side to see if they have hair loss, if they do, chance r u will lose ur hair in ur lifetime, but keep in mind, tren and other androgenics dont cause u 2 lose ur hair, they speed of the time itll take for u 2 lose ur hair, if ur prone to hair loss, youll get it earlier on gear than u would juice free
tren gyno is diffrent from test gyno, so theres no reason to start taking nolva if u cut the tren early unless u get gyno, if your really concerned about gyno and test aromatization get adex or letro (preferable letro, combates some tren sides too)
theres no reason 2 up your test unless u want to, 500mgs/week is alot, but as far as water bloat from it ull prob get some because the test will aromatize, if u want dry gains get an ai
when are you planning on running the tren at the end or the front of the cycle ? I do not think you will experience sides with the low dose you will be taking..i would take much more and for 12 weeks if it were me..tren is awesome !
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Thanks so much guys...exactly what I was looking for....Dennis, I was going to get my Test E started for a couple of weeks before I hit the Tren due to the long ester...so I think that answers your question....I dont believe hairloss will be an issue for me, I was more concerned with attempting to offset the immediate cessation of Tren in case I can't get by the sides...If I can live with them, I will consider upping the dose of Tren...I just don't want to hit the Nolva until absolutely neccessary during PCT....I got Clomid, but I will be a ball of nerves when I eat it....(I wll be carrying around a tube of Vagisil for my sore vagina bone)....Thanks so much, you guys are the tits deal....
I am just about ready for a Tren Ace and Test E cycle (gear is starting to show up)...I have not used Tren before and I want to give it a try...My plan is to start with 50mg Tren EOD and see how it goes...My question is, if I can't manage the sides of Tren, should I stop Tren, and start feathering in some Nolva and up my Test (from 500mg), or just stop the Tren and keep on truckin' with the Test alone at 500mg...I had planned on running Test E for 11 or 12 weeks, and Tren Ace for 8 weeks .I obviously will have Clomid and Nolva on hand...Thanks so much in advance!....I am 40 and will be trying for lean,dry mass gains, with a minimum of water bloat or puffiness...Maybe my hair won't fall out in clumps
It depends on what the sides are but at 50 eod you should be ok. I did a Tren test cycle and used 50 Tren every day and lost 3 % body fat from 14 to 11%. My sides were a mild rash I got on my quads for some reason. I would get in a month of test before you start the tren.
Last edited by role model; 02-14-2007 at 01:41 PM.
Rolemodel....I appreciate your input....I had your same fleeting thought about the Test E as you mentioned...because of the long ester I suppose...I am betting that is what Dennis was eluding too...This changes things a bit....I need to consider rounding up more Test E (I have enough for about 13 weeks)....Get the Test kicking in at 4 weeks, then let er rip with the Tren..
"I was going to get my Test E started for a couple of weeks before I hit the Tren due to the long ester."
is BassAckwards thinking.
The Tren Ace does the job of a front load. You absolutely don't want to wait several weeks before you start. Go ahead and start the Tren Ace the same day you start the Test Enan. so you have a fully anabolic environment from Day 1. This is no different than front loading with dbol or any other fast acting product in combination with a slower acting product. You want the anabolic benefits to start immediately to maximize your muscle growth and strength gains, from day 1 to the end of your cycle.
Also, the acetate ester has a very short half life of approx. 1 day. Tren Ace should really be utilized on an ED routine. Which is a hassle but if you're going to use it, that's the best way to use it. Also, be aware some people get immediate lung/breathing problems after injecting Tren Ace. If it happens to you, just sit down for a few minutes and you'll be fine. Just a few of the reasons why I always use and recommend others use Tren Enan.
Good luck,
MaxRep
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Steroids are illegal in the United States w/o a prescription.I do not use them and do not advocate thier use by anyone.Do not ask me source related questions as I do not know any sources.I will answer only intelligent questions related to training,nutrtion,and hypothetical use of steroids.Phil : 4:13
"I was going to get my Test E started for a couple of weeks before I hit the Tren due to the long ester."
is BassAckwards thinking.
The Tren Ace does the job of a front load. You absolutely don't want to wait several weeks before you start. Go ahead and start the Tren Ace the same day you start the Test Enan. so you have a fully anabolic environment from Day 1. This is no different than front loading with dbol or any other fast acting product in combination with a slower acting product. You want the anabolic benefits to start immediately to maximize your muscle growth and strength gains, from day 1 to the end of your cycle.
Also, the acetate ester has a very short half life of approx. 1 day. Tren Ace should really be utilized on an ED routine. Which is a hassle but if you're going to use it, that's the best way to use it. Also, be aware some people get immediate lung/breathing problems after injecting Tren Ace. If it happens to you, just sit down for a few minutes and you'll be fine. Just a few of the reasons why I always use and recommend others use Tren Enan.
Good luck,
MaxRep
I understand what your saying, but he said he only wanted to do only 8 weeks of Tren A, so I suggested it at the end and go out with a bang. Thats the way I would do it. Personally I prefer Tren e over a anyway.
Last edited by role model; 02-14-2007 at 05:05 PM.
MaxRep....I appreciate your information...I completely get the picture you are painting...I have been relating other's experiences on Tren and basing an 8 week cycle on that....then stretching my Test E cycle a bit longer...It appears to front load Tren from the beginning and go from there...I can live with that, and I just want to get the best bang for the buck on this cycle...I am accustomed to Test E....just my first go 'round with Tren so everyone's insight is welcome and much appreciated...RoleModel, thanks for your wisdom bro'...you have been most helpful....Dennis, I suppose I could get some Tren E, but I am going the homebrew Ace route right now to see how I react to it....We will see....as soon as my freakin' Nolva gets home...
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