new bulker

[dougdr]

ok so heres the deal stats 6-1 198lbs 7percent just finished cutter that was 11 weeks tren prop and var.i have a good 10 cycles under my belt.

hows this sound for bulker
weeks 1-16 750mg of cyp.
1-14 600mg of deca
1-6 50mg ED of d-bol
11-17 35mg ED turnibol
1-17 500iu every 5 days of hcg

only running one bulker this winter instead off 2 so i gotta make it good and yes i already know how to train and eat like a horse. planning to start mid nov.my question is how does that sound,is that enough ot and would var be better?

[bigbench]

Honsetly bro, that looks pretty good. I am on something similar myself. With ten cycles im sure you know about pct and anti e's and im sure you already know what doses your body can handle. Mine are a little bit lower than yours, but i can gain weight fairly easy so I dont use that high of doses anyway. I think it looks good. Let us know how is goes.

[HDH]

Looks good. Not sure if I would use the T-bol at the end though. I would rather use Prop or Var. That is just a preference though.

HDH

[Anhdalai]

Originally Posted by HDH

Looks good. Not sure if I would use the T-bol at the end though. I would rather use Prop or Var. That is just a preference though.

HDH

+1
Tbol seems pretty weak in a strong cycle you've set up.

[MaxRep]

That's a total of 13 weeks of orals out of 17 weeks total... something I'm not a fan of at all. If you're going for longevity in this sport, you don't want to put that kind of stress on your body.

You have several choices if you want to cut down the orals.

1. drop the dbol and double up on the Test and Deca for the first 3 weeks.

2. drop the tbol and stop the Deca at week 13 and run the 4 last weeks with NPP from week 14-17. Stopping the cyp at week 16 and the NPP at week 17 will allow them to dissipate at the same time.

3. drop the tbol... stop the Deca at week 12... let week 13 be as week where you're letting the Deca levels drop... then starting in weeks 14-17 run Tren Acetate.

I'm not a fan of Deca and Tren together but stopping the Deca in week 12 and not starting the Tren until week 14 is enough of a separation that I wouldn't consider that to be a problem.

The basic cycle you have there with the Test and Deca and a frontload or kickstart of some sort is great.

Good luck!
MaxRep

[dennis]

Max..good reply...how bout dropping the dbol completely and adding prop in for 2-3 weeks ?

[MaxRep]

Originally Posted by dennis

Max..good reply...how bout dropping the dbol completely and adding prop in for 2-3 weeks ?

Sure, that's another valid option. I'd run the prop for a full 3 weeks, after which the longer esters should be noticeable.

Best regards,
MaxRep

[dougdr]

no experience with npp but sounds very interesting does it harden you up like the t-bol or var would cause thats the idea to run something at the end to harden up new gains. basically looking for replacement for winny cause i won't touch dht compounds

[MaxRep]

There's no such thing as a steroid to harden you up. Some AAS are better than others at assisting the fat burning process but none of them will actually harden you up.

All there is are various products which don't aromatize and thereby don't cause any water retention. When you're at the end of a cycle, this lack of water retention along with hard training and proper diet will allow you a slightly harder appearance but it's just water.

NPP is simply a short ester nandrolone which some feel has less water retention properties than longer ester nandrolones like deca. Personally, I don't see that but I do see the benefit more as a way for all the AAS to clear your system at the same time as compared to using deca.

Best regards,
MaxRep

[advanced-stealth]

So true ^^^^