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Old 07-21-2004, 01:42 PM
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Hey there Bros,

I have been training for 4 years now and my stats are 6'1 / 192 / 12 -15%

I want to do a course and so far have the following to start me off.

Week 1-4 500mg Sustanon / 200mg Cyp E3D / 50 mg D/bol ED

Week 4-10 500mg Sustanon / 200mg Cyp E3D

My first course was:
Week 1 400mg cyp / 200mg Deca E3D

Week 2-10 400mg cyp / 200mg Deca E3D

I found that my bf went up with this and I had a medium amount of bloat. I gained 17lbs and have so far managed to keep it. I know the gains should have been better but I had the flu for a week in the middle of the course, which cost me dearly.

I wanted to get feedback from as many of you as possible in order to make a good decision as to my next cycle.

Thanks in anticipation.....
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You may want to lower the doses a little, I've done a few cycles, like 5 or 6 and still stay around 750mgs test per week, and the dbol does wonders on me at 25 mgs ed, by the way I'm 6'1" @ 205, 12% b/f, orther then the doses being a little high IMO, it looks good, Have fun growing.
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1st- Welcome to the board, and having the guts to post a cycle to be critiqued by others.
2nd- I'm one of those pessimists who believes "more is not always better." However i'm not a Doctor or a mod here, and this is only my opinion.

This is your second cycle and your running d-bol for the first time, at 50mgs a day. I would start around 30mgs. Taken evenly throughout the day.
The test I would lower too. Somewhere around 600 to 750 mgs a week, since this is just your second cycle.
The Deca I would run around 300 to 500 hundred mgs a week.
I would run this cycle around 10 wks.
I would do 500iu's of hcg on wed and fri of weeks 5 and 10.
I would use nolva or arimidex as needed during cycle.
21 days from last injection of Susta, I would start Clomid at 150mgs on first day, then 100mgs a day around 3-5 days, then 50mgs around 7- 10 days.
Just my 2 cents, it's free and you don't have to use it if you don't like it, personally I think these doses are still just a hair too high for only your second cycle, but you already ran over a thousand a week on your first.
Try increasing your workout load, frequency, or intensity to make progress, than just taking heavy doses to make up for lack of thorough training or progress.
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freak gave you some good advice
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Old 07-22-2004, 08:36 AM
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1st- Welcome to the board, and having the guts to post a cycle to be critiqued by others.
2nd- I'm one of those pessimists who believes "more is not always better." However i'm not a Doctor or a mod here, and this is only my opinion.

This is your second cycle and your running d-bol for the first time, at 50mgs a day. I would start around 30mgs. Taken evenly throughout the day.
The test I would lower too. Somewhere around 600 to 750 mgs a week, since this is just your second cycle.
The Deca I would run around 300 to 500 hundred mgs a week.
I would run this cycle around 10 wks.
I would do 500iu's of hcg on wed and fri of weeks 5 and 10.
I would use nolva or arimidex as needed during cycle.
21 days from last injection of Susta, I would start Clomid at 150mgs on first day, then 100mgs a day around 3-5 days, then 50mgs around 7- 10 days.
Just my 2 cents, it's free and you don't have to use it if you don't like it, personally I think these doses are still just a hair too high for only your second cycle, but you already ran over a thousand a week on your first.
Try increasing your workout load, frequency, or intensity to make progress, than just taking heavy doses to make up for lack of thorough training or progress.
peace, freak

Thanks Freak,

I kind of misled you with my first cycle info, sorry...

I ran 400 mg Cyp & 200 mg Deca split over the week ( ie; 200mg Cyp & 100mg Deca e3d ).

I think you are right about the d/bol I thought 30-35 mg but was advised that was too little (I thought it was crap advise that's why I posted, to check with you good bros). A friend recommended this forum as the best around.

Could you advise PM or Email a good source of Clomid for research purposes only ;o), as I only have arimidex at .25 ed for the course. Which was fine for my first cycle, no gyno or itchy nips ect...

Aslo I have no experience of hcg, could you expand on that a little ??

Thanks,
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Old 07-23-2004, 08:28 AM
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Thanks Freak,

I kind of misled you with my first cycle info, sorry...

I ran 400 mg Cyp & 200 mg Deca split over the week ( ie; 200mg Cyp & 100mg Deca e3d ).

I think you are right about the d/bol I thought 30-35 mg but was advised that was too little (I thought it was crap advise that's why I posted, to check with you good bros). A friend recommended this forum as the best around.

Could you advise PM or Email a good source of Clomid for research purposes only ;o), as I only have arimidex at .25 ed for the course. Which was fine for my first cycle, no gyno or itchy nips ect...

Aslo I have no experience of hcg, could you expand on that a little ??

Thanks,
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