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[eddie305]

Hello everybody...I'm glad to join your community.From what I've read you guys actually help out a lot, unlike other forums that just critizise almost everything.I'm 20 years old, I've done 2 cycles of test allready and I'm on my 3rd cycle right now.I took some time off the gym after the 2nd cycle due to some personal problems and lazyness helped out a bit too.I now started a week ago with Omandren 250..2 shots a week(2CCs).I was wondering if I could add Winstrol too and how much a week.Also I need you opinions on my cycle.I read that its better to do a 4 week cycle and then take 4 weeks off than your regular 10-12 week cycle.Well hope you can help out....thanks

[dennis]

Originally Posted by eddie305

Hello everybody...I'm glad to join your community.From what I've read you guys actually help out a lot, unlike other forums that just critizise almost everything.I'm 20 years old, I've done 2 cycles of test allready and I'm on my 3rd cycle right now.I took some time off the gym after the 2nd cycle due to some personal problems and lazyness helped out a bit too.I now started a week ago with Omandren 250..2 shots a week(2CCs).I was wondering if I could add Winstrol too and how much a week.Also I need you opinions on my cycle.I read that its better to do a 4 week cycle and then take 4 weeks off than your regular 10-12 week cycle.Well hope you can help out....thanks

hello and welcome..hope you can take some constructive critisism..We all including you have alot to learn .You are too young to be cycling bro for various good reasons.You need to stay on board with us and learn as much as you can about your endocrine system etc... etc..I do not like to hear the word lazy either out of anyone..there is no room for that in power lifting or body building.The 4 week cycle might work with fast acting esthers but not very well,it would never work with long acting esthers.Stick around there are several good guys on here your age..d

[agpando]

Originally Posted by eddie305

Hello everybody...I'm glad to join your community.From what I've read you guys actually help out a lot, unlike other forums that just critizise almost everything.I'm 20 years old, I've done 2 cycles of test allready and I'm on my 3rd cycle right now.I took some time off the gym after the 2nd cycle due to some personal problems and lazyness helped out a bit too.I now started a week ago with Omandren 250..2 shots a week(2CCs).I was wondering if I could add Winstrol too and how much a week.Also I need you opinions on my cycle.I read that its better to do a 4 week cycle and then take 4 weeks off than your regular 10-12 week cycle.Well hope you can help out....thanks

Maybe you should think about using Dbol or Anadrol instead of Winstrol for about 4 weeks to start up your cycle. Omnadren takes a long while for it to actually kick in and I've read that a lot of people usually don't see gains until a month after their first injection. Taking it for only 4 weeks would be almost pointless. Since you've already done 2 cycles, then you may be able to run this for 12-16 weeks at 500mg a week or even a little higher. You might want to also pick up some finasteride just to fight DHT. What does your PCT look like? How old were you when you did your first cycle? Also what are your stats?

[eddie305]

great help guys, and yes I can take critizism .So let me get this straight, you think I should start using Dbol next week instead of winstrol for 4 weeks to get the cycle going, and then keep on using Omnadren for 8 more weeks?I dunno what you mean by stats?I'm pretty well fit, weight 158 lbs, 5'8.My first cycle was at 19, I took test cypionate, 1cc a week.And yes I know lazy its not good but I was battling some issues you know.Now my mind is clear and I'm ready to give 110%!!!

[dennis]

Originally Posted by eddie305

great help guys, and yes I can take critizism .So let me get this straight, you think I should start using Dbol next week instead of winstrol for 4 weeks to get the cycle going, and then keep on using Omnadren for 8 more weeks?I dunno what you mean by stats?I'm pretty well fit, weight 158 lbs, 5'8.My first cycle was at 19, I took test cypionate, 1cc a week.And yes I know lazy its not good but I was battling some issues you know.Now my mind is clear and I'm ready to give 110%!!!

winstrol should be taken at 50 mgs per day for 8 weeks...good to use on a 10-12 week cycle but the last 8 weeks not the first.
I would run your current cycle out to 10 -12 weeks using dbol or prop to kick start with.I would follow up with proper pct..and then lay off the gear for 5 years and lift natural till then.

[eddie305]

damn 5 years??can't you shorten my sentance a little bit??lol...look man you deff. know a lot more than me and I appreciate your help.I'll try to follow your advice and stay off the gear for as long as I can hold.I got winstrol but in a small bottle not tablets.So what do you suggest a week?or should I stick with dbol instead?

[agpando]

What are your goals for the cycle? And what does your PCT look like?

[eddie305]

I want to gaing at least 150-20 pounds of muscle and look cut at the same time.I used to be really skinny, I weighed 135 at 18!!!My first cycle changed all that.I would eat just about every healthy meal out there 6 times a day and it was really hard to gain a few pounds.I'm sorry but whats PCT?

[ChaseQ]

Originally Posted by eddie305

I'm sorry but whats PCT?

OMFG!

Bro, if you havent started this cycle DONT!

Heres some advice, do research and read, then when you think you have it figured out research and read some more!

Honestly your to young, to small(in no way reached a plateu) and dont know shit! You will end up fucking up your endo system and getting some nice titts will a little bald spot with the way your going!

Footnote: You will read this as me being negative and rude. You will ignore it completely. YOU WILL, look back some day and regret not listening.

[eddie305]

lol relax chace, I appreciate the advice..I really do.Wich is why I'm gonna follow Ds advice and finish this cycle and take a few years off.I did some research on PCT and found a few great articles that layed out how many weeks and what to take weekly.Here's what I found
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/article...le-therapy.htm

[LifeSize]

Originally Posted by ChaseQ

OMFG!

Bro, if you havent started this cycle DONT!

Heres some advice, do research and read, then when you think you have it figured out research and read some more!

Honestly your to young, to small(in no way reached a plateu) and dont know shit! You will end up fucking up your endo system and getting some nice titts will a little bald spot with the way your going!

Footnote: You will read this as me being negative and rude. You will ignore it completely. YOU WILL, look back some day and regret not listening.

Chase, down here in Miami a lot of people cycle. None of them believe in PCT, mainly because 90% of the users have no clue. They just cycle on and off. At least this is what I've found.. I get a little freaked out when I talk to people in real life about this stuff.. i feel I know too much and most shurg me off..

[ChaseQ]

Read the PCT sticky at the top of the page. Good stuff. I dont want you to think that your total size should dictate if you should cycle or not. I think that these 250lbs guys that say if your not 225lbs you shouldnt cycle are shit for brains. Size is relative to so many factors. Not just total lbs.

But I look back to my 1st cycle and think of all the mistakes I made. At the time I thought I knew what I was doing. I DIDNT!

Good Luck!

[eddie305]

so should I do dbol or winstrol with the omnadren cycle?if so how long?

[agpando]

Honesty they are all right. You need to read up a lot more on everything. Especially if you didn't know what PCT was or is, I mean thats obviously a key part in any body's cycle. Also just because you read an article about PCT doesn't mean that its necessarily going to work for you. Everybody's body is different and everybody reacts differently to everything, you need to read up more on each of the drugs you'll be taking and figure out what should be taken to combat the sides. Most likely you'll end up going with Nolva which is the obvious choice for a lot for people. Depending on the length of the cycle I'd also recommend getting your hands on some HCG. What did your other cycles consist of?

[Reinheart]

Welcome aboard bro. If you want to have that nice dry, ripped look add winnie, if you want to bulk up use a-bombs or d-bol. Both work great.

For how long did you run your first cycle and how much did you gain? Did that 1cc gave you any acne?