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Old 08-11-2005, 01:09 AM
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Hey guys, just a few questions, hope i dont get flamed for asking.
i am thinking about bulking up i want to weight in around 95 kgs im currently 80kgs.

i have a wholee lot of sus 250 available dboll deca andriol stanazol etc..

i was thinking about one cc sus 250 a week for 8 weeks and thats it. i read a lot of posts and ppl say nolvadex is a must for anti estrogens is that right?
but with a small amount of sus and first cycle do i need PCT?

also will sus 250 or deca cause prostate cancer? diabetes liver cancer? i mean i read the side effects for these drugs and some places say yes and some say the side effects are pimples on back possible hair loss etc.

would one cycle cause prostate cancer or any serious health issues, also should i take the blood test before and one after the cycle? and wat am i looking for in the test?

also without pct will i lose a lot of size? i appreciate all ur help.

i have been training for a very long time i am 5'10 around 80kgs at the moment. 23 yrs old.
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Old 08-11-2005, 11:07 AM
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Hey guys, just a few questions, hope i dont get flamed for asking. i am thinking about bulking up i want to weight in around 95 kgs im currently 80kgs.
15 kg is quite a large gain for one cycle; it's definitely possible, but I doubt you would keep all 15 kg gained during the cycle.

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i was thinking about one cc sus 250 a week for 8 weeks and thats it.
Up it to 500mg / week; 250mg will just replace your natural test, you won't see much gain.

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i read a lot of posts and ppl say nolvadex is a must for anti estrogens is that right?
It would be wise to use arimidex or letrozole throughout your cycle and keep nolvadex on hand to combat gyno should it get past the arimidex.

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but with a small amount of sus and first cycle do i need PCT?
Yes if you want to keep those gains. Get your hands on some clomid at least.

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also will sus 250 or deca cause prostate cancer? diabetes liver cancer? i mean i read the side effects for these drugs and some places say yes and some say the side effects are pimples on back possible hair loss etc.

would one cycle cause prostate cancer or any serious health issues, also should i take the blood test before and one after the cycle? and wat am i looking for in the test?
No, not unless you have some genetic predisposition towards any of those problems. In a normal healthy adult male, it shouldn't be a problem. Yes, it would be wise to have your blood checked periodically. Also be sure to take equal time off.

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i have been training for a very long time i am 5'10 around 80kgs at the moment. 23 yrs old.
Not trying to flame ya, but if you've been training for a long time, at 5' 10" I would suspect you'd weigh more than 80kg. What's your diet and training look like? You best check out the 5x5 sticky in the training forum. Get your training and diet right for bulking, and then when your training and diet are very good, add the AAS and you'll see nice results. Using AAS without proper diet and training will not yield the results you want(15kg).

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run the sus alone at 500 mgs per week and run it 12 weeks minimum - it takes 12 weeks to get the most benefit from sus - save orals and other stacks for later

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Thanks for your help guys, i am still deciding which to take deca, primo or sus, well before i started weight training i was weighing around 65kgs over yrs of training i got up to 80kgs with protien poders 5 meals a day etc, but i have a bit of fat around the waist area. i appreciate all the posts from you guys, very informative.

also i would like to hear from people who have had bad experiences with steroids. people who have taken a few cycles many years ago and experiences any problems now? which is linked to the juice?
i dont want to look at only the pros but the cons aswell..

thanks guys.
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Steroids are evil and bad for you sell them to me ...lol...
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