new to a cycle. - MESO-Rx

bigcountry76 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-31-2006, 08:35 AM

I am getting ready to start my first cycle. Since i am Europe region i can get anything i want which is really nice and i can get it cheap also. I heard that you shouldn't do alot test or anything your first cycle. maybe just work into stronger cycles. Also i heard that it shouldn't last that long such has like 8 weeks. just curious about this. maybe some of you could give me advice on it? One last thing. does or should i take any supplement while on a cycle.? I have read over and over everyone taking in a cycle but i am unsure if someone might be taking amino acids or something else. thanks for any advice you can give me. btw here is the cycle i am looking to start soon.

Winstrol Depot Primobolan Depot Andriol
1 50mg (M,W+F) 200mg 120mg/day
2 50mg (M,W+F) 200mg 160mg/dday
3 50mg (M,W,F+Su) 300mg 200mg/day
4 50mg (M,W,F+Su) 300mg 200mg/day
5 50mg (M,W+F) 200mg 160mg/day
6 50mg (M,W+F) 200mg 120mg/day
7 50mg (M+Th) 100mg 80mg/day
8 50mg (M+Th) 100mg 40mg/day

thank for any help or advice.

atomicone · #2 (**permalink**) 10-31-2006, 09:18 AM

My advice for 1st cycles is one of the following:

#1 - 250-500mg of Sustanon EW (or Cyp etc.) for 8 weeks + good diet + good training program

#2 - Same as above but maybe add 200-300mg of Deca per week or maybe Primo.

Note: Keep it simple your first time around, you'll be plenty happy with the results.

Good Luck!

terrorizer2 · #3 (**permalink**) 10-31-2006, 07:47 PM

Winstrol,Primo,Andriol is an expensive way to see little results.Why people want to do cycles like this is beyond me.Stick to the simple tried and tested beginner cycles(test/deca/dboletc.).

bigcountry76 · #4 (**permalink**) 10-31-2006, 08:17 PM

so just do Sustanon EW and deca the first time around ?

swelty · #5 (**permalink**) 10-31-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bigcountry76

so just do Sustanon EW and deca the first time around ?

bro keep it simple for the first one. test e 500 mg ew for 10wks. that will give you all u want and then some.

ForemanRules · #6 (**permalink**) 10-31-2006, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bigcountry76

I am getting ready to start my first cycle. Since i am Europe region i can get anything i want which is really nice and i can get it cheap also. I heard that you shouldn't do alot test or anything your first cycle. maybe just work into stronger cycles. Also i heard that it shouldn't last that long such has like 8 weeks. just curious about this. maybe some of you could give me advice on it? One last thing. does or should i take any supplement while on a cycle.? I have read over and over everyone taking in a cycle but i am unsure if someone might be taking amino acids or something else. thanks for any advice you can give me. btw here is the cycle i am looking to start soon.

Winstrol Depot Primobolan Depot Andriol
1 50mg (M,W+F) 200mg 120mg/day
2 50mg (M,W+F) 200mg 160mg/dday
3 50mg (M,W,F+Su) 300mg 200mg/day
4 50mg (M,W,F+Su) 300mg 200mg/day
5 50mg (M,W+F) 200mg 160mg/day
6 50mg (M,W+F) 200mg 120mg/day
7 50mg (M+Th) 100mg 80mg/day
8 50mg (M+Th) 100mg 40mg/day

thank for any help or advice.

That is a horrible cycle for any man.

Do like the others said,,,,,,a test only cycle.

400mg or 500mg a week 8-10 weeks, you can jumpstart with test prop if you want.

1-4 Test Prop 100mg EOD
1-10 Tesst E 500mg ( 250mg 2x a week)

PCT begins 12 days after last shot

jasthace · #7 (**permalink**) 11-01-2006, 06:23 AM

A good cycle might be
250 mg injectable testosterone weekly
30mg dbol every day
for 12 weeks
followed with post cycle theropy

Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mgs/day 1,000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mgs/day 1,000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mgs/day 1,000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20mgs/day
5 20mgs/day
6 20mgs/day

enduranceAthlete · #8 (**permalink**) 11-01-2006, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jasthace

A good cycle might be
250 mg injectable testosterone weekly
30mg dbol every day
for 12 weeks
followed with post cycle theropy

Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mgs/day 1,000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mgs/day 1,000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mgs/day 1,000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20mgs/day
5 20mgs/day
6 20mgs/day

If you're not running the HCG, does it make sense to run the aromasin as well? If I understand it correctly, the aromasin is to offset the increase in estrogen produced by the HCG. If that's the case, then no it's not needed but probably wouldn't hurt... I think I just answered my own question.

jasthace · #9 (**permalink**) 11-01-2006, 07:13 PM

Here is a bit more info for you bro

http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Po...%28PCT%29.html
http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Ar...dex%20PCT.html

I do think it is mandatory to run hcg for any pct bro.

swelty · #10 (**permalink**) 11-02-2006, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasthace

A good cycle might be
250 mg injectable testosterone weekly
30mg dbol every day
for 12 weeks
followed with post cycle theropy

Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mgs/day 1,000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mgs/day 1,000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20mgs/day 1,000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20mgs/day
5 20mgs/day
6 20mgs/day

he would just be shuting his natural test level down at 250 mgs. at a minium 350mgs ew. my point is, if your gonna do it than benefit from it. test e at 500 mgs ew week would be a good cycle